Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2017 January 10

= January 10 =

01:32:42, 10 January 2017 review of submission by Mcintouch
i am trying to create a page for a 3rd wave coffee retailer similar to starbucks ans stumptown. but i'm being told my 13 references are not enough. what exactly should i do?

Mcintouch (talk) 01:32, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Mcintouch - Well, first, I will be blunt, but referring to a 3rd wave coffee retailer sounds like market-speak, and so I have to ask whether you have a connection with the subject. Second, just numbering the references at the end of the article rather than making them into footnotes isn't ideal.  Third, sometimes just adding more references doesn't make a company notable.  Robert McClenon (talk) 04:41, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Request on 14:01:45, 10 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Swam44uk
I believe that John Hemming-Clark deserves a Wikepedia page because he unity and has written three books which are available on Amazon and through a reputable publishing company (Searchline Publishing). John is also a scout leader and has written books about this. Antonia De Sancha has a Wiki page but John Doesn't and John seems to have done a lot more work towards positive causes etc. Please can you advise on how we can make John notable.

Many Thanks.

Swam44uk (talk) 14:01, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Swam44uk (talk) 14:01, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I will comment that the section on Politics is not written from a neutral point of view and appears to be written to advance his political career rather than to describe. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:41, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Swam44uk - The draft is not in good grammatical English and needs work in that regard. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:41, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

16:06:00, 10 January 2017 review of submission by Mcmlis
Hello, I edited an article for submission about 20 days ago, and I was wondering where it might stand in the queue. I'm excited about the updates I made to it and I'd love to see it published. The article is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Miguel_Eduardo_Padilla_Silva

Thanks for your help! Mcmlis (talk)merrily Mcmlis

Mcmlis (talk) 16:06, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Mcmlis - I have looked at your draft, and I see significant tone issues with it. It appears to be written to praise its subject and to promote his career rather than to describe him neutrally.  Focus on what third parties have written about him, if he is notable.  If I were reviewing it at this time, I would decline it.  Maybe I ask the same question over and over too many times, but do you have a connection with the subject or his company?  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:38, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Do not use Wikipedia as a reference. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:38, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your feedback, Robert. I had previously revised the post to make it more notable. Can you suggest edits and other posts that can help me toe the line between notability and praising more carefully? I had read articles about other executives at FEMSA and thought Padilla was worthy of an entry. I appreciate any help you can offer. Mcmlis (talk)Merrily Mcmlis – Mcmlis —Preceding undated comment added 16:53, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * You haven't answered my question. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:37, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

21:19:01, 10 January 2017 review of submission by Redshojin
Hey there. So this draft was declined because the references used don't show the article's notability. It's a game currently in paid pre-release so until it's released and there are reviews and other coverage that is understandable. My questions are more geared toward how to help the page along once it does reach a certain aspect of notoriety. Could someone let me know which references being used currently are in favor of it's notability, and which references are unnecessary? I ask so that it can better fit into wikipedia's idea of notability.

Second question: is it safe to leave a page within it's draft format for now until which time there is enough suitable references, or does that leave the page in danger of being auto-deleted? Is there a good way to back up the page, perhaps somewhere on my user page so that I can keep formatting and content? And finally, third question: can an image be added if it's a copyrighted image but released for use by the press from the company? Perhaps another user with more permissions to upload would have to do that. Thank you! Redshojin (talk) 21:19, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, Redshojin. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia.  If you haven't already done so, you ought to take a look at WP:WikiProject Video games/Sources for detail on the usefulness of different kinds of sources.  Also, the Talk page connected to that page, or the Talk page for WP:WikiProject Video games, will be excellent places to ask questions about specific sources.  As for the length of time a draft may be retained, automatic deletion usually will not occur until after six months of inactivity.  As for uploading images, that can be a complex process.  WP:Uploading images will provide an introduction to that process.  But note that, if you upload an image under the "fair use" doctrine (which is what you appear to be describing), it will not be retained unless it is being used in an article.  And that means article, not draft. So, uploading that image should wait until your Draft has been accepted for publication.  I hope this response has been helpful.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 16:21, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

22:49:43, 10 January 2017 review of submission by Toux
Dear support, my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Carbohydrate_Structure_Database was declined on Dec, 22nd, I corrected it on Dec, 26th, and wrote a comment for reviewers, what I changed and why. 16 days passed since then but the article is still awaiting a review. Is this normal?

Toux (talk) 22:49, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, Toux. Thanks again for your submission to Wikipedia.  Our apologies for the delay in response.  We continue to be backlogged here at Articles for Creation and, as I post this, there are approximately 100 drafts that have been submitted or re-submitted earlier than yours.  We regret the continued delay.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 00:28, 13 January 2017 (UTC)