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= January 20 =

00:22:00, 20 January 2017 review of submission by Hoovbacca
Wondering what i need specifically to improve this article....do i need more sources, or do i need to prove that the new lead singer of a major American band is noteworthy? New to doing this, and need guidance.

thanks Hoovbacca (talk) 00:22, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, Hoovbacca. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia.  Our apologies for the delay in response.  "Needing more sources" and "needing to prove someone is noteworthy" are going to be pretty much the same thing here.  Right now, you haven't shown that the subject is "notable" in the sense that Wikipedia uses the word.  To do that, you need to find sources that are reliable and independent of the subject, and that discuss the subject in depth.  The band's Facebook page and web site are not going to be useful in making that demonstration.  I also have my doubts about the NashvilleThreeSixty blog because, although it does provide a substantive biography of the subject, it was almost certainly derived from the subject himself (I saw nothing else on that site to suggest that its author engages in independent research when writing her blogs).  So, that's what's needed here -- not only more sources, but sources of the type that will demonstrate that the subject meets our notion of "notability".  But there is a more basic problem here -- we generally will not find someone "notable" simply because they have a relationship with a notable topic (i.e., there is no "inherited notability").  There is no doubt that Chicago (band) is notable, but this in itself does not imply that every musician in the band is independently notable.  For more detail on this point, see the final paragraph of WP:MUSICBIO.  If you are unable to find reliable sources that document notability for Coffey that is independent of his membership in the band, the best that can be done is to create a "re-direct", meaning that a person who types Coffey's name into the Search box will be taken automatically to Chicago (band).  I hope this response has been helpful.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 19:40, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Request on 12:45:51, 20 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Edna Maritim
I wrote an article about a company but it was refused. They said i didnt have adequate references and that it was ambiguous advertising. There is little informaton about the company online. It is a startup. So finding references is extremely difficult, actually there are none. How can i handle this? and about the ambiguous advertising what does that mean?

Here is the post below. Please help me understand where i went wrong.

DATA FINTECH is a Consumer Data Broker located in Nairobi (Kenya) whose main aim is to generate financial value from a consumer database. Every company has a database of clients and this data asset has a financial value. Data Fintech believes in using this data to help create financial value, increase customer database, influence customer decisions and predict customer behavior. Contents •	1.History o	1.1 Founders •	2 .Services •	3. Company culture •	4. Major work •	7. References •	9. External links History Foundation Founded in 2015, the company provides an innovative business model to monetize databases, and has partners (i.e. data provider) in several sectors in Africa and outside Africa. Founders The organization was founded by Dramane Traore and Donatien Beguv. Dramane Traore is an e-Payments Expert with 15 years experience in the FINTECH Industry in France, Canada and Africa. He has been in charge of the business development in Sub-Saharan Africa at FIS Global (NYSE: FIS). Dramane holds a Master from ESCG Business School in Paris. Donatien Beguv is a Data Analysis Expert with 11 years experience in African Economics, Demographics and Health data analysis. Donatien is the Head of the Statistics and Surveys in a leading NGO in Nairobi. Donatien holds a PhD from Paris 10 University, in France. Services Data Fintech's services and products are targeting online market places, bancassurance business, retail business and informal economy. The company's business model is to collect and analyze data from organizations to create a new content that include scoring, trend analytics and recommendations. The new content is then sold to third parties and the new revenue shared between the organization (i.e. data owner) and Data Fintech. Company Culture Data Fintech believes in creating an affordable data-driven ecosystem to help businesses make strategic decisions. The organization uses the phrase " Smart business=Smart data." Within the organization, it encourages employees to shift from data producers to data consumers. Major Works Kenya Electronic Brands Competition Report Data Fintech gives a comprehensive monthly report on the performance of electronic brands such as Apple, Samsung, Infinix, LG, HTC, TLC, Sony, Lenovo, in the Kenyan market. The data is collected fromPigiame.co.ke, the largest online classified marketplace for electronic items in Kenya Informal Small Business. The company has engaged in various social entrepreneurship projects. The biggest being a service that aims to help informal small business owners to access finance, by tracking their economic activities. In 2016 The Company undertook a survey that looked at over 200 small business owners in 10 major slums around Nairobi. From this, Data Fintech found out that one of the major issues informal small businesses have is the inaccessibility to finance. This encumbered their ability to grow their businesses. The reason they did not have access to finance was because of poor credit scoring or the lack of. As such Data Fintech came up with a way to help these businesses. The company developed a mobile app that allowed business owners to keep track of their financial activities. This also gave Data Fintech access to the data, allowing them to score various businesses. Through a partnership with a bank, over 200 informal small business owners now have access to finance.

Edna Maritim (talk) 12:45, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Edna Maritim - Your draft was tagged as UNambiguous advertising. That is, it was and is advertising rather than a neutral description of the company.  (If what you just posted above is what you previously submitted, then I agree that is advertising rather than a neutral description of the company.)  If there are no third-party references available about the company because the company is new, then it is too soon and the company simply isn't notable.  Many editors think that getting a Wikipedia article about a company or organization is a good way to get it started and to bring it to the attention of the public.  That isn't what Wikipedia is for.  Wikipedia isn't a vehicle to bring a new company or organization to the attention of the public.  Robert McClenon (talk) 02:37, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

12:46:27, 20 January 2017 review of submission by Toux
Dear help desk, Is it normal to have an article under review since 2016 Dec 26? My response to the previous reviewers: see article talk page

Toux (talk) 12:46, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * To give an overly short answer to your question, yes. Unfortunately, the review process is backlogged, and waiting several weeks for a re-review is not unusual.  Robert McClenon (talk) 02:31, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

16:06:26, 20 January 2017 review of submission by Quibu
Quint Buchholz is a notable person. There is an article about him on the German Wikipedia. He is also referenced in two other English Wikipedia articles, including "Mildred L. Batchelder Award" and "Talk Amongst Trees". He received two Batchelder Awards (1998, 2000). He has also been listed author of one of the Best Illustrated Children's Books 1999 by the New York Times and has been reviewed for the NY Times by the critic Perry Nodelman. Another book, Nero Corleone by Elke Heidenreich and illustrated by Quint Buchholz was also recommended by the NY Times. Numerous websites have reviewed books written by him and illustrated by him (e.g. https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/quint-buchholz/the-collector-of-moments/; http://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-374-31520-7).

NY Times best illustrated children's books 1999: http://www.nytimes.com/1999/11/21/books/children-s-books-the-best-illustrated-children-s-books-1999.html NY Times children's Bookshelf recommendation: http://www.nytimes.com/1998/01/18/books/children-s-books-bookshelf-999938.html Review of Quint Buchholz's work published by the Goethe Institute: http://www.goethe.de/ins/es/mad/prj/kuj/en9846597.htm Review by Perry Nodelman for the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/books/99/11/21/reviews/991121.21nodelmt.html

My article was denied, it says I need to insert proof that the person I'm writing about is a notable person. But where in my article should I insert the sources that prove that? Quibu (talk) 16:08, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Quibu - You need to put footnotes in the draft. See Referencing for beginners on how to do this.  (Some of the weblinks could serve as some of the footnotes.)  Also, see Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information on the length of the lists, and please trim them.  Robert McClenon (talk) 02:29, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, are you Quint Buchholz? If so, please read the autobiography guideline.  Robert McClenon (talk) 02:39, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

20:15:57, 20 January 2017 review of submission by DavidPatBoyle
DavidPatBoyle (talk) 20:15, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

20:15:57, 20 January 2017 review of submission by DavidPatBoyle

I am new. How do I make the blue print for words that are in another Wikipedia Article? I have a new article with lots of possibilities.DavidPatBoyle (talk) 20:15, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, David. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia.  Improving your draft will call for a lot more than simply adding "blue links" (although that is certainly one of the things that needs to done).  It also needs to have its material divided into appropriate sections and the source material needs to be linked (via footnotes) with the material in the text.  You might want to read our WP:Tutorial, which is a step-by-step guide that will familiarise you with all of these basic "Wiki-skills".  But on an equally important note, the subject of your submission already exists here on Wikipedia, under the title Marsh-Warthen House.  However, your new material would constitute a considerable expansion of the existing article, so you are welcome to continue working on your material here in "Draft space", where I and other reviewers can check on your progress in adding the "blue links", sections, etc.  In a few moments, I'll be re-naming your draft to conform with the title of the existing article, so that we don't inadvertently get two articles on the same subject.  If we can be of any further help, feel to ask.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 21:46, 20 January 2017 (UTC)