Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2017 January 25

= January 25 =

Request on 00:32:30, 25 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by 162.245.21.61
Why is this extensively sourced draft AfC on established [fintech] company, Credible being rejected? The article is in fact written from a neutral point of view, and refers to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Latest reviewer, DGG, not inclined to discuss 162.245.21.61 (talk) 00:32, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

162.245.21.61 (talk) 00:32, 25 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, IP address. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia.  In fairness to DGG, I must point out that they are only the latest of seven reviewers to have declined your draft.  And for what it's worth, I agree with the comments that DGG left on your draft, particularly the one that notes the large amount of extraneous material appearing in your draft.  But I'll be happy to discuss the underlying issue of notability with you on the draft's Talk page.  In a few minutes, I'll leave some comments there.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 02:25, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

13:40:39, 25 January 2017 review of submission by Design219
I respectfully disagree with the reviewers feeling that the event is not significant and that the citation are not significant enough. First, the festival has been successful for over two decades (2017 will be the 24th year) and has had a significant economic impact on the host city and surrounding area. Audiences are drawn from many states. The citations are significant and legitimate. If the state's major newspapers, NPR radio, industry magazines and official state reference publications are not significant enough, I'm not sure any regional cultural events would be acceptable for Wikipedia.

Finally, there are many festivals on Wikipedia which appear to fall well below the level of the Master Musicians Festival for both significance and references. Here are just a few music festivals I grabbed as examples:


 * MasterWorks Festival
 * Deer Valley Music Festival
 * Homegrown Music Festival
 * Berlin Atonal
 * CTM Festival
 * OM Festival

There are literally hundreds more.

Thank you for taking a few minutes to reconsider this submission. Design219 (talk) 13:40, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, Design. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia.  I took a look at your submission and found it to be a borderline case.  I do agree with the reviewer in noting that most of your references are local (in relationship to the festival) and that, although they can be useful sources of verifiable information, they don't do much to establish "notability" in the sense that Wikipedia uses that word.  As for the list of festivals that you've given here, I didn't look through all of them.  I checked just one (Homegrown) and can see your point about an existing article with virtually no sourcing whatsoever.  But frankly, on an encyclopedia with more than 5 million user-generated articles, it is inevitable that some will exist even though they shouldn't.  And this just means that we need to do a better job of removing non-notable topics from the encyclopedia -- it does not mean that we should lower our standards for new articles.  Getting back to your submission, the situation is not bleak, because the article by Ryan Reed from Guide Magazine helps your case a lot.  If you can find more references of this type, I'll be happy to accept your submission for publication.  In the meantime, I'll put your draft on my watchlist so I'll be automatically apprised of any progress you make with sourcing.  I hope this response has been helpful.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 03:09, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Hey thanks User:NewYorkActuary. I appreciate your explanation, feedback, and encouragement. Hopefully, we will have more press, improve the citations and meet the standards this year. Design219 (talk) 18:28, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

16:29:06, 25 January 2017 review of submission by 2600:8803:7A00:19:99F7:FB5D:F3F4:F454
2600:8803:7A00:19:99F7:FB5D:F3F4:F454 (talk) 16:29, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * What is your question? Your drafts were accepted.  JTP (talk • contribs) 20:58, 25 January 2017 (UTC)