Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2017 June 22

= June 22 =

02:03:29, 22 June 2017 review of submission by IM3847
How to decline a draft at Articles for Creation. IM3847 (talk) 02:03, 22 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry if you have to ask here, you are clearly not qualified to do any reviewing. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:09, 22 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Sir, Can I know who can review these draft i.e., Users with specific types of Rights.—IM3847 (talk) 16:10, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The criteria are listed at WikiProject Articles for creation/Participants. jcc (tea and biscuits) 18:50, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

16:14:38, 22 June 2017 review of submission by Mastercourington
I had posted an article concerning Brenda J. Sell, a Taekwondo personality.

I am trying to understand the whole citation verifiability ordeal. I cited several links (though, admittedly, I did not do the reference tags within the body, as you can literally find the information within the links I provided), I have linked to her husband's wiki page, as well as a couple of other wiki pages (Kukkiwon, being one of them as well).

Where am I going wrong?

Mastercourington (talk) 16:14, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, Mastercourington. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia.  I see that you have already engaged in some discussion with the reviewer who declined your submission.  Here, I'll just make two additional remarks.  First, you ought to work through our WP:Tutorial, which will provide an introduction to the craft of constructing an acceptable Wikipedia article.  Right now, your submission falls short of several of the basic elements of our Manual of Style and working through the tutorial will help improve your draft.  You might also take a look at some of our better-quality articles on martial artists, such as Zhou Tong (archer) and Ernest Emerson.  These articles will show how the principles discussed in the Tutorial are used in practice.  My second remark has to do with what you call the "whole citation verifiability ordeal".  Although this is addressed in one of the Tutorial chapters, it merits special emphasis here -- a biography of a living person must have "in-line" citations for the facts that are presented to the reader.  It simply is not acceptable to place a bunch of references at the end of the article and expect the reader to search through all of them if they want to verify any particular statement.  The failure to provide in-article citations will, in itself, be a sufficient reason to decline your submission.  I hope this response has been helpful.  If you have any questions, feel free to ask.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 18:10, 23 June 2017 (UTC)