Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2017 June 6

= June 6 =

07:27:44, 6 June 2017 review of submission by Shainy123
Shainy123 07:27, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, Shainy. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia.  Did you have a specific question?  NewYorkActuary (talk) 07:52, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Request on 08:46:11, 6 June 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Aheisk
I have several times tried to have this entry submitted but each time it has been rejected. It is not clear why. Please assist me to have the entry finalised. Thank you.

Aheisk (talk) 08:46, 6 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi the history of the page Draft:Christopher Lloyd (Economic Historian and Political Economist) (b Moree, Australia, 1950) shows no evidence that it has ever been reviewed or even submitted for review. In fact it was created in a single edit on 19 March 2017 and has not been touched since. I suspect any previous versions may have been deleted. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:06, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Rodger: The page has now been edited slightly and submitted, I believe. Please help me through the next stage. Thank you. Aheisk (talk) 09:33, 6 June 2017 (UTC)


 * to submit it you need to place {{subst:submit}} (including the double curly braces) on either the top or bottom of the page. However I can already see that your referencing is not up to the required standard for a biography of a living person, you need to use inline footnotes, see the inline citation guide. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:36, 6 June 2017 (UTC)


 * , before you resubmit I urge you to reflect carefully on Rule 7 of the Wikipedia editor. Rule 7 says: "Avoid Shameless Self-Promotion".
 * Here it goes: "Many people are tempted to write or edit Wikipedia articles about themselves. Resist that urge. If you are sufficiently notable to merit inclusion in an encyclopedia, eventually someone else will write an article about you. Remember that unlike a personal Web page, your Wikipedia biography is not yours to control. A lovingly crafted hagiography extolling your many virtues can rapidly accumulate information you would rather not be publicized."

11:46:48, 6 June 2017 review of draft by Essexgroup
I am trying to create an article about our company. How do I go about adding information that appears within the box on the top-right of the page? It contains key numerical information.

Essexgroup (talk) 11:46, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi . What you have in mind is an infobox. The formal documentation for the relevant one is Template:Infobox company. You can edit the source of any company article that has one, such as BAE Systems or Oliver Typewriter Company to see an example of its use.


 * Before you go too far down the path of trying to write an encyclopedia article about your company, I encourage you to read WP:BFAQ. What you're doing is a terrible idea, for so many reasons.


 * To be accepted, the draft would have to cite significant coverage of ESG in multiple, independent, reliable, secondary sources, thereby showing that the topic meets Wikipedia's notability criteria for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Think substantial profiles in The Financial Times, The Economist, and The Wall Street Journal. The bulk of any article should be supported by such independent sources, with non-independent ones used only for non-controversial details. --Worldbruce (talk)

Thank you for your advice. I will find further independent sources and add to the article before going through review and then submission. I was using other construction company pages as exmaples and couldnt see many independent sources. There are no marketing type information just facts and fugures of the company i.e. timeline and what it is that ESG does. --Essexgroup (talk) 13:37, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

12:25:38, 6 June 2017 review of submission by Aheisk
Roger: if I fix the citations, is there any guarantee that the article will be published? Aheisk (talk) 12:25, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi . No, but if you don't fix the citations then realistically there's zero chance that the draft will be accepted. A bigger problem is that you appear to be citing mainly sources written by Lloyd. Such sources are of little value in your endeavor. You need sources written about Lloyd by people independent of him, such as critical reviews of his books published in scholarly journals. --Worldbruce (talk)


 * , once again--you don't seem to have digested Rule 7 of the Wikipedia editor. Rule 7 says: "Avoid Shameless Self-Promotion".
 * Here it goes: "Many people are tempted to write or edit Wikipedia articles about themselves. Resist that urge. If you are sufficiently notable to merit inclusion in an encyclopedia, eventually someone else will write an article about you. Remember that unlike a personal Web page, your Wikipedia biography is not yours to control. A lovingly crafted hagiography extolling your many virtues can rapidly accumulate information you would rather not be publicized."

14:25:39, 6 June 2017 review of submission by Alphabetty85
The subject of the page is standing as a Parliamentary candidate in the 2017 UK General Election - please can you advise me how to make the references reflect the subject's notability? I have added some more references so far but let me know what else i need to do please

Alphabetty85 (talk) 14:25, 6 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Wait three days. If Gideon wins the seat, I will pass the article as she will be notable per WP:POLITICIAN, although somebody might independently create the article. If she doesn't, we can create a redirect to the constituency's article. Mhairi Black got a well-written article within half an hour of her defeating Douglas Alexander at the 2015 election, for instance. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  15:45, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

18:28:22, 6 June 2017 review of submission by 97.89.29.152
97.89.29.152 (talk) 18:28, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello everyone,

This my first time writing in Wikipedia and I had been rejected it. I wondering why? Any thoughts will be more than welcome. Thanks in advance.
 * Hello, IP address. Thank you for your interest in Wikipedia.  Which rejection are you asking about?  NewYorkActuary (talk) 18:30, 6 June 2017 (UTC)