Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2017 November 12

= November 12 =

03:12:19, 12 November 2017 review of submission by Pictank
This page creation was declined and would like to know why. Thanks

Pictank (talk) 03:12, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi . One of Wikipedia's core content policies is that all content must be verifiable in reliable, published sources. This is typically demonstrated by using inline citations. In biographies of living persons, inline citations are required for any material challenged or likely to be challenged, which in practice means almost everything. Draft:Mary W Maxwell cites no sources.Help:Referencing for beginners explains the mechanics of citing sources.


 * Also, Wikipedia only accepts biographical articles about individuals who meets it's notability criteria for inclusion. Maxwell may have led a full life, but it is not clear that anything she has done rises to the level of encyclopedic notabilty. Notability is demonstrated by significant coverage in independent, reliable, secondary sources, and the bulk of any article should be based on such sources. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:01, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Request on 03:15:47, 12 November 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Donat.natthanan
Can you suggest me how to write Wikipedia in Tod Mun Hua Plee Topic .In This topics, I must send to a teacher to get the score.Please you suggest me

Donat.natthanan (talk) 03:15, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi . Wikipedia is not a cookbook, and articles should not be written like recipes. Borscht and Gumbo are two examples of well-written articles about dishes. Note their emphasis on the history of the dish and their use of scholarly sources instead of random websites. WikiProject Food and drink/Tools/sources may help you find reliable sources. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:21, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

04:12:32, 12 November 2017 review of submission by Hagennos
I noticed that my submission of page for OPNSense Firewall was rejected stating that one of the references is not allowed. I assume that this is because the reference is to a blog post. OPNSense is an Open Source Firewall with regular updates. The project has two major updates a year and minor updates every month. The minor updates are important from a security standpoint as these are normally issued to correct bugs and close security issues. The announcement of the release is only through the blog post which I had referenced. OPNSense Release Announcement Only the major releases are referenced through the web page directly OPNSense Roadmap. I do not see any other way to reference the release and the only other solution would be to remove the reference which I believe is not correct. Hagennos (talk) 04:12, 12 November 2017 (UTC) Hagennos (talk) 04:12, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 * for the reasons explained on the draft. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:17, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

10:10:02, 12 November 2017 review of submission by Oyaron
The TNS is the formal IAU (International Astronomical Union) name designator for discovered optical transients and Supernovae, mentioned e.g. on this wikipedia entry - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT_2017gfo, therefore we - at the Dept. of particle physics and astrophysics in the Weizmann Institute for Science - wanted to make sure that there exists and entry for the TNS on Wikipedia.

The article we posted was rejected for the reason that it is not supported by reliable sources, and we wonder what is necessary for this entry to be accepted.

The TNS is a utility serving the world wide astronomical community, supported by the IAU, with no commercial benefits or as such. All professional sky surveys, as well as amateur astronomers, report to the TNS for receiving formal IAU names for the discovered astronomical transients.

As a formal world-wide astronomical resource, an entry for the TNS must exist on Wikipedia

We'll appreciate your advise what is required to add/revise so that the entry is approved.

Kind regards,

Dr Ofer Yaron, on behalf of the experimental astrophysics group at Weizmann.


 * Hi Your topic is so specialized that I strongly advise you to get advice from WP:WikiProject Astronomy. The regular editors there would know best how to deal with these issues. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:37, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

14:13:24, 12 November 2017 review of submission by AndHereComesJohnny
Gary Copec was a significant computer scientist (over 30 publications according to DLBP, well over 2000 citations according to google scholar), if people of his stature are not notable enough it is unclear who is. I'm not a coauthor, just someone who's done work in his field, and I was trying to fill in what I thought was a lacuna in WP coverage.

AndHereComesJohnny (talk) 6:13, 12 November 2017 (UTC)


 * If Kopec were an academic rather than industry scientist he might have had an easier route to notability. The only open route to notability requires that there are multiple independent and reliable sources that contain substantial information about him. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:09, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Well, he did most of his creative work at Xerox PARC, considered a "university without students". Anyway, I added another link.

AndHereComesJohnny (talk) 18:23, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

18:40:03, 12 November 2017 review of submission by TonyParis
TonyParis (talk) 18:40, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Can someone explain why my article was declined and how can I get it accepted?

Thank you.


 * Thanks for your submission. Your draft was rejected because you have not provided any WP:RELIABLE sources. Facebook, blogs and other self-published sources are allowed in some circumstances but cannot be used to establish notability of a subject New articles must meet a notability criterion. In this case the criterion is described in WP:NMUSIC. ~Kvng (talk) 15:54, 13 November 2017 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict)
 * Hi . Wikipedia strongly discourages autobiographies. I've left more information about that on your talk page.


 * Wikipedia does not publish articles about all musicians. To be included, a musician must meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for people or specific guidelines for musicians. Independent, reliable, secondary sources are necessary to show that a person meets these guidelines. Draft talk:MC Tony Tee was declined because the sources it cites are not independent (Facebook, soundcloud), don't have an established reputation as reliable sources (pinterest, oldschoolhiphopofficial.wordpress), or don't contain significant coverage (pinterest, rateyourmusic); they do nothing to demonstrate notability.


 * The only route to acceptance of the draft is finding independent, reliable sources that cover MC Tony Tee at some depth. Insane Clown Posse is an example that makes good use of a range of solid sources: Billboard, The New York Times, and books. The draft need not be that long, but those are the sort of sources to be looking for.


 * A secondary problem is that as a biography of a living person, the draft must use inline citations for certain material. The statement, "It [the single "Jealsousy Rap"] was the number eight hit on the European charts for 4 weeks", for example, requires an inline citation. There is a table of charts, Record charts, that may help you find proof. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:05, 13 November 2017 (UTC)