Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2017 November 25

= November 25 =

01:35:01, 25 November 2017 review of submission by Mw17
I am writing an article for a class and am trying to publish it. I have had my account for more than 4 days and received a notification that I had made more than 10 edits. Do I still need to go through the review process? I thought I could post it directly given the above criteria. Thank you for your help. Mw17 (talk) 01:35, 25 November 2017 (UTC)


 * You will see that moved your article back to draft space.  The subject is not one I'm familiar with, so perhaps an expert here can judge whether it is ready for publication?  As I think you probably know, Wikipedia is not the place to publish original research, but if your article is just a summary of published sources, then it should be acceptable under that criterion.    D b f i r s   08:25, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Request on 03:01:19, 25 November 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Drewzab
Helpers! I have a question about notoriety. My article on the Daisygrinders found here: has been rejected due to notoriety. I contend that in the 1990s when they were active, they were instrumental in the fledgeling 'Grunge' movement. They were signed recording artists and their catalogue is still available for purchase. The band appeared on the front page of The Drum Media magazine with a full article about the band on page 12. This magazine had a distributorship of 120,000 issues. I can provide evidence but cannot find a way to do this through the wikipedia website. There is reference to the DM article here: The band was published by Universal Music, has currently available published works and is available on Spotify. They were signed to a subsidiary of Regular records and Mercury Records - Major Labels. Their back catalogue can still be purchased through Half A Cow music. During the 1990s the band was at the forefront of the Australian Music Scene, playing across the country, supporting Major artists and playing a major festival. They have been cited in the Who's Who of Australian Rock. Is this not sufficient to prove notoriety? Any assistance you can provide to help have this band listed on Wikipedia would be greatly appreciated.

My article has been reviewed many times but is always rejected due to notoriety. I have articles on the band but these are no longer in print nor available online. How do I reference these articles to prove notoriety if they cant be checked by reviewers? Thanks Drewzab (talk) 03:01, 25 November 2017 (UTC) Drewzab (talk) 03:01, 25 November 2017 (UTC)


 * The Drum Media article does sound like the sort of source we're looking for. Be aware that unless you can demonstrate some other enabler in WP:NMUSIC is met, we will want to see multiple sources like this. Offline sources are perfectly fine. See Help:Referencing for beginners for how to do this. Minimally just describe the source in any academically plausible way (publication, date, title, author, page numbers...) between tags.

05:54:41, 25 November 2017 review of submission by Apsia
Apsia (talk) 05:54, 25 November 2017 (UTC) Hello,

How can I get my article accepted? Please see below for details, Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Drewmutt was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources. The comment the reviewer left was:

References currently only point to the subject, not independent media coverage of it. Additionally, Wikipedia strongly discourages writing about topics you're close to or created.

How to fix this article? This is my first time doing this in wikipedia.

Thank you,

A P Sia Apsia (talk) 05:54, 25 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi . I've replied to the same question at the Teahouse.  It's far too early for an article.  You will need to wait until independent reviews of your work are published, then collect these and summarise what they say.    D b f i r s   08:09, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello Dbfirs,

What independent reviews are acceptable? Can you give some of these independent review?

Thank you,

A P Sia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apsia (talk • contribs) 00:21, 26 November 2017 (UTC)


 * This isn't my area of expertise, but reviews should be in independent magazines (for example) and should not be publicity material. See WP:Reliable sources for the policy.    D b f i r s   08:57, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

06:20:17, 25 November 2017 review of submission by Avantgaertner
Hello, how do I resubmit my edited article for review? I do not see this option. Thanks!

Avantgaertner (talk) 06:20, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi . An editor has added to the draft a template that has a "Submit your draft for review!" button. Click it to resubmit. Normally the "Submit" button is embedded in the box explaining the reason for the most recent decline. In future, do not remove prior reviews and reviewers' comments. They will be removed automatically if and when the draft is accepted. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:22, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

08:11:39, 25 November 2017 review of submission by Pvchandramoulli
Pvchandramoulli (talk) 08:11, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, PV. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia.  Our apologies for the great delay in response.  But you didn't actually ask a question.  Is there something specific that we can help you with?  NewYorkActuary (talk) 02:02, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

08:15:25, 25 November 2017 review of submission by Nemo8130
Thanks for accepting the article on the Complementarity Plot. We hope that this is useful to the audience of wiki and particularly to the structural biology community. I shall be grateful to learn further whether all subsequent edits to this page will be auto-updated to the public domain. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complementarity_plot

Thanks and Kind regards, Sankar

Nemo8130 (talk) 08:15, 25 November 2017 (UTC)


 * When your draft was accepted it was moved to the main article on the English Wikipedia. The original draft doesn't really exist anymore and all further updates will be made to the live version. You can use your WP:WATCHLIST to keep an eye on further changes to this and any other Wikipedia articles you're interested in helping to maintain. ~Kvng (talk) 00:42, 29 November 2017 (UTC)