Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2017 October 2

= October 2 =

Request on 01:49:26, 2 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Citlali Marquez at SK
Hello, I work for Saint Kentigern Trust Board and I need to create a Wikipedia profile for Saint Kentigern Boys' School, Saint Kentigern Girls' School and Preschool.

I have drafted the Wikipedia profile for the Boys' School but the submission was declined and I would like to get some help in order to get the profile approved which will give me some guidelines to crate the remaining 2 schools profiles that I need to create.

Citlali Marquez at SK (talk) 01:49, 2 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi . What you personally need may be at odds with Wikipedia's needs. That's a major reason why people who have a conflict of interest with regard to a topic should not create an article on that subject.


 * Wikipedia articles are about notable topics, ones that a reader would expect to find in a general purpose encyclopedia. Notability is evaluated based on the extent to which the world at large has taken notice of the subject. Most primary and middle schools are not notable. If Saint Kentigern Boys' School is the one-in-a-thousand exception to that rule of thumb, it will need to be shown by citing significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources.


 * If you can identify such sources, I strongly encourage you to ask at Requested articles for an article to be created, rather than attempting to complete Draft:Saint Kentigern Boys' School yourself. If they agree that the subject is notable, experienced volunteers will create an unbiased article about it following the article guidelines for schools. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:18, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

14:42:58, 2 October 2017 review of submission by LIbby.Hoban
Hi,

I drafted an article (Clyde Space) which was not accepted. I've updated it based on the comments provided. There isn't a resubmit button that I can see. Is there anything further I should do or will this be reviewed in time as it is?

Thanks, Libby LIbby.Hoban (talk) 14:42, 2 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi . In future, do not remove the reviews or any comments reviewers leave. One reason is that the resubmit button is embedded in the big pink box that contains the reason the draft was declined. The reviews and comments will be removed automatically if and when the draft is accepted. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:29, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

21:56:01, 2 October 2017 review of submission by Jzirin
Jim Zirin (talk) 21:56, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

My draft article has been rejected for lack of references. I have updated it. Will this suffice? Jim Zirin (talk) 21:56, 2 October 2017 (UTC)October 2, 2017


 * Hi . The two references you added are both written by James D. Zirin. They do not address the reason the draft was declined because to demonstrate encyclopedic notability the sources must be independent of the subject. In other words, notability is not proven by things Zirin wrote, but by what other people wrote (in reliable sources) about Zirin and his work. The bulk of any article should be based on such sources.


 * You may be familiar with the old adage that "A lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client". Something similar is true here. Although Wikipedia does not forbid people from attempting to write an autobiographical article, doing so is strongly discouraged and would be foolish. This extends to writing about family and others with whom one has a close relationship, and to hiring someone or being hired by someone to write about a topic. If the topic meets the encyclopedia's inclusion criteria, one of Wikipedia's tens of thousands of active volunteers will write about it. --Worldbruce (talk) 00:44, 3 October 2017 (UTC)