Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2018 December 27

= December 27 =

02:56:06, 27 December 2018 review of draft by Ericgleonard
I am asking how I can have wikipedia accept the verification of my source as follows:

https://myaccount.news.com.au/sites/goldcoastbulletin/subscribe.html?sourceCode=GCWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&mode=premium&dest=https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/sport/local-sport/nerang-eagles-us-midfielder-eric-leonard-eyes-pro-deal-after-gold-coast-premier-league-season/news-story/5d0657db9a2d72feaa0d18decf014fe5&memtype=anonymous

This source confirms my one year contract with Nerang SC in Queensland, Australia. Below, I have included the link to the full newspaper article in jpeg format.

https://scontent.fmia1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36365620_2076973209010710_4266735088688955392_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.fmia1-2.fna&oh=edcbe0f746d1061db7918ec8560a0050&oe=5CD46492

Please let me know what I can do, so my draft can be published.

Ericgleonard (talk) 02:56, 27 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi G'day and welcome to AfC help desk. First of all Wikipedia strongly discourage editor write about themselves - see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY and secondly the subject fails the notability of Football (soccer), see WP:NFOOTBALL, guidelines  as collegiate soccer  nor Nerang Eagles (it is not one the club of Australia A League)  is one of the list in WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues. Secondly the contained claimed need to supported by independence, reliable source. The source from Goldcoast Bulletin is considered reliable but not independent as it is a interview piece where by the subject provide the information, thus the source is associated with the subject and it would considered NOT independent. When the subject make it to any of the club as per  professional list above, then it is welcome to create the article. Thank you.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:05, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

05:05:28, 27 December 2018 review of draft by C.J. Anderson-Wu
There are still few sources in English for the referring this person's notability in Taiwanese literature, but there will be more to come. C.J. Anderson-Wu (talk) 05:05, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Sources do not have to be in English as long as they are professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources. Wikipedia does not guess what sources might say in the future.
 * You need at least three reliable sources that provide in-depth coverage specifically and primarily about Badai but are not affiliated with nor dependent upon him nor his publishers nor anyone connected to them. All you have to do is gather three such sources and summarize and paraphrase them, providing in-line citations after those summaries.  You can find more detailed instructions in this guide I wrote. Ian.thomson (talk) 00:46, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

08:33:23, 27 December 2018 review of submission by Piotr.kuczynski1983
Hi,

I understand that what's missing are secondary sources, but I'm unsure as to what those sources might be to consider the article valid? I know that with regard to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability the wiki page cannot be the original source of the work, but on then the page does cite the original work that Organisational Psychology was described in ( https://leanpub.com/heartsoverdiamonds ). The book does have an author, and is published, although through Leanpub.

What more might be needed to help move this article along?

Piotr.kuczynski1983 (talk) 08:33, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 * See WP:NOTE and WP:NOR. Secondary and tertiary sources prove that someone from unaffiliated with the subject cares about it.
 * There was also the very serious problem of advocacy for the subject. Language like "more humane, more joyful and more successful" is advertising, which Wikipedia does not do.
 * I have a guide here on how to write articles that won't be rejected or deleted that you may find useful if you want to try again. Ian.thomson (talk) 00:37, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

14:01:37, 27 December 2018 review of draft by 212.139.93.249
I am creating an article and i need help finding reliable sources as soon as possible. Wikipedia doesn't find the article reliable enough.212.139.93.249 (talk) 14:01, 27 December 2018 (UTC) 212.139.93.249 (talk) 14:01, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 * See the "Finding sources" section of the guide I wrote. You might also want to check out the section "How to write articles that won't be rejected or deleted" to get a better idea of what sources you'll need.  In short, you need at least three professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources that provide in-depth coverage specifically and primarily about Anderegg but are not dependent upon nor affiliated with him.  Without three such sources, an article will never happen.  Ian.thomson (talk) 00:32, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

14:12:36, 27 December 2018 review of draft by Aptyxiella
My reviewer says I did not have any references other than a "company website". This is incorrect, I included three published references (books) and the website is not a company website. How do I make those book references visible to the reviewer?
 * The title of the website citation (and the capitalization of "Building Btone") does give the impression that it is the website for a company called "Dorset Building Stones," which in turn would give the impression that two of the books were company publications. Looking at it a bit longer, I see that you're writing about a specific type of stone used in building.  That should be fine.
 * What I usually recommend doing is taking at least three professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources (so that website doesn't work), that are specifically and primarily about Dorset building stone and just summarizing and paraphrasing those. It does look like you were already trying that but try to focus more on detailed prose instead of lists.  You may also want to decapitalize "building stone" so that a reviewer doesn't assume that "Dorset Building Stone" is a brand name. Ian.thomson (talk)

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How would I be able to have an article accepted even without needing references. I am The Petlings - Official and I own Draft:The Petlings series but I don't wanna use references for my article due to it being my stuff. What shall I do to have an accepted no-reference article? 119.92.14.102 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:56, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) If there are no references, it does not belong here, period. This is especially true for biographies of living persons.  No sources, no article.
 * 2) It's a very bad idea to try to write an article about yourself. We strongly discourage editing anything relating to yourself.
 * 3) You own nothing here, any article about you would be owned by the Wikipedia community. This is not Facebook.
 * Ian.thomson (talk) 00:10, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Sending this for deletion discussion. This is not how Wikipedia works at all Legacypac (talk) 02:56, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

17:10:51, 27 December 2018 review of submission by Cotidianus

 * The article should be based on secondary or tertiary sources that are professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources. Not only that but you need at least three that provide in-depth coverage specifically and primarily about Stotfold but completely independent of it.  Other Wikipedia articles are not professional sources.  The "original conveyance of the land filed at The Land Registry" and the photographs would be a primary sources and original research, which we do not use.  Photos only prove that it exists, which is not the same as being notable.
 * In fact, to get a draft approved, you only need three or more reliable independent sources that provide in-depth coverage. Ian.thomson (talk) 00:20, 28 December 2018 (UTC)