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= December 4 =

Hello, my own article draft of AMKTech Versions has references, no copies, has used reliable sources, but wasn't accepted. What could be the problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewTheGreatestGamer (talk • contribs) 08:25, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

08:52:39, 4 December 2018 review of draft by Josephintechnicolor
I would like to confirm that Books indexed in Google referencing the subject, Kelly (Mohre) Hyman, can support notability please. Josephintechnicolor (talk) 08:52, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi . The first three books do nothing to establish notability. They are passing mentions in a cast list. I have not evaluated Young and the Restless: Most Memorable Moments, but even if it contains significant coverage of Hyman (think a chapter, or a few pages, or at least several meaty paragraphs), it would not be enough on its own to establish notability. Novice editors are commonly advised to cite at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources that contain significant coverage of the topic. --Worldbruce (talk) 18:11, 4 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi . Thank you for answering my question, I will continue to look. I also felt the Youth award nomination would be notable perhaps I can find something to help in that area.

09:08:38, 4 December 2018 review of draft by SpeedwayInfo
SpeedwayInfo (talk) 09:08, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

I developed this page relating to my favourite sport of speedway prior anyone else on Wikipedia and and in previous seasons I will update this page regularly with the correct information.

Today, I noticed that because this page was put into draft space someone else has started a page on Wikipedia for the same subject although their page is inferior to the one that I'm creating. I do not think that this is far and reasonable.

Can I please edit that page and place my code over the inferior 2019 SGB Championship to something that looks much better on Wikipedia.
 * Answered on Draft:SGB Championship 2019. --Worldbruce (talk) 18:04, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

11:21:31, 4 December 2018 review of draft by MatthewTheGreatestGamer
MatthewTheGreatestGamer (talk) 11:21, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Can you help me? I had a draft with reliable sources, web sources, not copied, and done everything for a draft. What is the problem about my Draft:AMKTech Versions?
 * Hi . Sources used to demonstrate notability must be independent of the topic, as the bulk of any article's sources must be. Draft:AMKTech Versions's only sources are AMKTech, which is not independent. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:49, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

12:55:31, 4 December 2018 review of draft by 134.88.35.170
I am creating this new entry for a late astrophysicist colleague who passed away tragically. I want to ensure it meets the notability requirements for academics. Can you provide feedback as to whether the current draft of the entry satisfies these? How does the formatting overall look?

134.88.35.170 (talk) 12:55, 4 December 2018 (UTC)


 * - as this draft is now an article and has been patrolled and approved, the initial hurdles to demonstrating academic notability have been passed. Obviously someone may disagree with it in the future, but my personal thoughts would be he passes. Overall formatting looks good. I'm sorry for the loss of your colleague. Nosebagbear (talk) 17:22, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

13:54:44, 4 December 2018 review of submission by Dave Mulryan
I have never done this, but Mulryan/Nash created a whole category of advertising, and I thought that it had some relevance. Thanks for your assistance. I have no idea what I am doing, but I am doing it anyway. Thanks, Dave Mulryan

Dave Mulryan (talk) 13:54, 4 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi . Don't write about yourself, your family, friends, or company. See WP:BFAQ and Autobiography for further explanation of why. If you're interested in improving Wikipedia, we have millions of articles on topics to which you aren't closely connected. See Community portal for ways to help. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:34, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Request on 14:13:55, 4 December 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Fs2458
Hello. This is my first attempt at getting a page listed on Wikipedia. I'm not sure what other references to list or how to do so. Can you help with some direction?

Fs2458 (talk) 14:13, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi . Writing a new article from scratch is one of the most frustrating and time consuming things a novice editor can attempt. Your first article explains how to do it, including an entire "Gathering references" section, but there are a million easier and more rewarding ways to improve Wikipedia than writing entirely new articles. Explore Community portal for ideas about how to help. After editing existing articles for a few weeks or months you'll have a much better grasp of what it takes to write a new article. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:25, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

16:09:27, 4 December 2018 review of submission by Ecoarts1
hello, my first article was accepted but then I noticed one comment declaring the article needed to be rewritten. Which is it?

Ecoarts1 (talk) 16:09, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi . The original acceptance was overturned, and the page returned to Draft:Ray Lorenzato. Three major problems were identified:
 * Nearly every source cited is a primary source. Wikipedia articles should be based mainly on secondary sources. This is one of the differences between academic writing and writing for an encyclopedia.
 * Inline citations are missing from material that requires them. Material for which a reliable, published source cannot be cited should be removed. An incomplete biography is fine; an unverifiable one is unacceptable.
 * The reviewer also felt the "tone is also incredibly promotional". To address this, be sure to use independent sources and follow the guidance in Encyclopedic style, Neutral point of view, and Avoid peacock terms. Stick to verifiable events and don't state reasons for them in Wikipedia's voice ("His passion for learning and teaching led him to take a year-long sabbatical", for example, is unacceptable).
 * --Worldbruce (talk) 17:15, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Request on 18:28:03, 4 December 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Sampf
I have submitted an Article for Creation, published in the Sandbox. I am unclear on the prtocol - am I now waiting for review or I am supposed to move it elsewhere for review? Thank you very much for your help.

Sampf Sampf (talk) 18:28, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Sampf (talk) 18:28, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi . To submit it for review, click the blue "Resubmit" button in the pink box at the top of the draft. Before you do so, note that the issues raised in the March 2017 review have not been adequately addressed. The five inline citations (one of which is to Wikipedia, which is not a reliable source) support, at best, 15% of the draft. If you can't cite a reliable published source for something, remove it. --Worldbruce (talk) 18:47, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

18:40:01, 4 December 2018 review of submission by Peteri1994
Hi, my draft was rejected and I don´t understand why. Can you explain to me what was the problem?

Peteri1994 (talk) 18:40, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The rejection was unclear. The real problem is that this subject already exists at Ronnie_O%27Sullivan No other season has a standalone page. If you feel strongly the current year needs an exception, take that up on the playsr article talk page. Legacypac (talk) 23:23, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

20:58:00, 4 December 2018 review of submission by Mrow95
Mrow95 (talk) 20:58, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

22:45:05, 4 December 2018 review of draft by NadyaK96
Hello, Can you help me how to improve the article submission? I recently published a page under a name "Exclusive PR Solutions" and it was declined. The reason provided was that the submission appeared to be more like an advertisement and that the submission's references do not quality for Wikipedia article. Could you please elaborate on this problem? In my sources, I only cited independent news articles and I never referred to the company's website, so I was really confused when I received a decline. Also, I don't understand why the text is not neutral as I never called an audience to use the services of this company and only used information found in the news articles and press releases. I have no paid interest in the subject

Thank you very much for your help. NadyaK96 (talk) 22:45, 4 December 2018 (UTC) This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia NadyaK96 (talk) 22:45, 4 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Actioned the reviewer errored in not seeking speedy deletion of your promotional page. I've fixed that. Sourced to PR and indiscriminate business directories. Legacypac (talk) 23:17, 4 December 2018 (UTC)