Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2018 December 6

= December 6 =

00:36:03, 6 December 2018 review of submission by Matthewsharv
Hi, I'm a first time publisher on Wikipedia, I would like some advice on why people reviewing my attempt do not find my subject matter 'Cat Mantra' to be notable. This man has now released FOUR albums in total with the Ants of Adam and The Ants fame. That's one more than Adam Ant himself did! He has been signed to Orchard/Sony BMG since 2004 and also became a published literary author in 2016. HELP! Many thanks, Harv Matthews. Matthewsharv (talk) 00:36, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

01:12:32, 6 December 2018 review of draft by MrDevonWinters
Hi, my article was just rejected. It's normal it was a mess. I have no idea about all this technical stuff. I can translate articles for you perfectly but as for the technical, I have no idea. If someone wants to assist with the technical and I will simply take care of the translation, then I would be happy to continue helping Wikapedia. ??

MrDevonWinters (talk) 01:12, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

04:31:45, 6 December 2018 review of submission by Drwellness1

Draft: Message Music A Universal Genre  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drwellness1 (talk • contribs) 04:34, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

04:31:45, 6 December 2018 review of submission by Drwellness1
I received a decline based on copyright related to Spirit2Spirit. We will be working collaboratively and so I directly quoted their definition of "message Music," and statements made by Denny Jenkins from a radio interview. Once declined, I deleted all references and mentioned his organization in my own words and the resubmitted the article. I am hopeful that will remove any infringement issues. drwellness1Drwellness1 (talk) 04:31, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Drwellness1 (talk) 04:31, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

04:31:45, 6 December 2018 review of submission by Drwellness1

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My article was deleted based on copyright infringment. I am working collaboratively with Denny Jenkins whom I mentioned in the article and offered direct quotes from him. I referenced his work and cited the reference, so am not sure why it was deleted. I removed all direct quotes and references and replaced it with a comment in my own words. I am hopeful these changes with save the article from deletion. drwellness1

Drwellness1 (talk) 04:47, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Message Music a Universal Genre review of submission by drwellness1
My article was deleted due to copyright infringement. I am working collaboratively with Spirit2Spirit and Denny Jenkins and when citing quotes or information I referenced him and dated the reference accurately. I am not sure why these were inappropriate, but I removed all of these references and only mentioned his work in my own words. Will these changes prevent my article from being deleted, and allow me to have another review? drwellness1Drwellness1 (talk) 04:52, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Drwellness1 (talk) 04:52, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Actioned, to borrow a phrase from Legacypac. You can't just copy-and-paste website content into your article -- it has to all be in your own words, barring things quoted and cited inline. The article is being considered under db-copyvio and db-advert. programming Geek (talk, contribs) 05:00, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Request on 07:12:00, 6 December 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by KarenRutter
KarenRutter (talk) 07:12, 6 December 2018 (UTC) Good day, I received a mesage that my article had been rejected because "None of the references show original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject, therefore fails WP:ORGIND".

This is actually not true. The references are all drawn from independent sources, including newspapers and business research. They are reputable sources. I cannot understand why they would not be seen as such. I would like somebody else to please review my submission. I feel that this article deserves a second look, please. Much appreciated, Karen

KarenRutter (talk) 07:12, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Request on 08:05:04, 6 December 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by KarenRutter
KarenRutter (talk) 08:05, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Good morning, Further to my query regarding the references in my Wikipedia article - I do maintain that they meet Wikipedia standards. I have come across several articles in the past week which have far less credibility in terms of references and even writing, so wonder why my article, which is gramatically correct and has suitable references, is being blocked. PLease refer below: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kramer_(singer)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Malope

(The last example is particularly shocking). Please could a better explanation be given regarding my article? Best regards Karen

KarenRutter (talk) 08:05, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

10:39:18, 6 December 2018 review of submission by Matthewsharv
I have now added detailed explanation on Cat Mantra's role as front man and band LEADER with the Ants now. Also links to resources on why Cat should be recognised as notable for a huge body of successful work with legendary 80's fame musicians.

Matthewsharv (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Request on 11:39:58, 6 December 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by KarenRutter
KarenRutter (talk) 11:39, 6 December 2018 (UTC) Good day, I would like to please make a request, that when a user is searching for IFWEA, the Wikipedia page comes up. Currently, it only comes up if you type in the full title - International Federation of Workers' Education Associations - which most people will not do. The acronym is what people search for. How do I go about helping to make this change? Best regards, Karen KarenRutter (talk) 11:39, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

12:22:58, 6 December 2018 review of draft by Lumoscoco
Can you move my draft to article section and review it, because when i move it in the article section it comes redirected from the draf. Thank you Lumoscoco (talk) 12:22, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi the draft is in the queue to be reviewed, it may take some time. I took a quick look at some of the references, you seem to have put your own "description" where the article title should be, please use the exact same title as published by the source. For example your reference 6, from the Hindustan Times, the actual title of the article is "Justice Ahluwalia, nine others take oath as Punjab and Haryana high court judges". Go through the draft and check all your references for such errors. The references should include full details such as dates, authors, etc. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:36, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

12:52:58, 6 December 2018 review of draft by Sgracanin
Hi there, Sgracanin user, page is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Danube_hidden_heritage, which was deleted due to a copyright infraction, but it was resolved with help provided by RHaworth, who also sent me a copy of the site per Email. Now I have reinstated the draft, but it does not have the button to resubmit. I do not want to delete the "do not delete this line" line, thus, I rather ask here if you could please help me with this matter. Thank you in advance for assistance and time. Sgracanin (talk) 12:52, 6 December 2018 (UTC) Sgracanin (talk) 12:52, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi To submit it "manually" simply add the code  (including the double curly braces) above that "do not delete" line. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:14, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, thank you very much for your help and prompt answer! Awesome! Sgracanin (talk) 18:24, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

13:38:14, 6 December 2018 review of submission by Samuel mponda
Samuel mponda (talk) 13:38, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

15:24:04, 6 December 2018 review of draft by LYNXPlus
want to create same page as this: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yves_Ngabu but for English because now moved to England LYNXPlus (talk) 15:24, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, see WP:Translation for basic guidance, if you need further help come back here again. (BTW Where a person lives makes no difference to their notability.) Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:07, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

16:54:50, 6 December 2018 review of draft by Adicterow
I tried adding another source for my colleague, Anne McCabe who I am trying to create this page for. I'm confused why the two sources I added aren't sufficient to prove that Anne McCabe is an active working editor in film and TV.

Adicterow (talk) 16:54, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, proof of existence is not sufficient for a draft to be accepted. See WP:GNG for the basic standards of notability. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:10, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

17:44:07, 6 December 2018 review of submission by Jsayer94
I noticed the page I created for The London School of architecture was classified as "Start" class. Could I be given further clarification on how to improve this submission and which (type) of sources and references are not considered reliable? What could be improved with the structure if so and what further information should be disclosed?

Jsayer94 (talk) 17:44, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi . Now that London School of Architecture is in article space, it is no longer in the scope of Articles for creation; we reviewers must turn our attention to the hundreds of other drafts that come in every day.


 * There's nothing wrong with being start-class. The shades of difference from start-class through B-class may be important to people editing the article, but are less important to the broader community than knowing simply that it's better than stub-class and not as good as GA. Consequently, the reviewer may not have spent a lot of time weighing the initial rating.


 * Because of your conflict of interest, please don't edit the article directly. Instead, propose any changes on its talk page. Any number of editors may pitch in and edit the article mercilessly, so it may improve without you doing anything at all.


 * The quality scale has general advice on how articles move up the ladder. I've left a basket of links on your talk page that may give you ideas about improvements to suggest, or how to improve some of our 5.7 million other articles, most of which need just as much work. Spending time editing a variety of articles is one of the best ways to get ideas for betterments. Related projects, such as WikiProject London and WikiProject Schools are another source of advice, as are peer reviews. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:52, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

17:56:54, 6 December 2018 review of submission by Peteri1994
I will continue in edits despite rejection of my draft. I hope there would be somebody who could accept it at the end.

Peteri1994 (talk)

18:30:23, 6 December 2018 review of submission by Lildrewzy
I would like to put in a request for a re-review on the stance of unfair assessment and treatment leading to the rejection on this draft page. Once person should not have the ability to reject an article based on their personal judgment and bias of whether or not an article is worthy of inclusion or notability. If possible can @AngusWOOF who had commented on this article previously take a look at how it can be improved. Best regards. Peace Love and Happiness to all.

Lildrewzy (talk) 18:30, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

18:35:36, 6 December 2018 review of submission by 2405:204:672C:EDE:9829:6289:2907:9994
2405:204:672C:EDE:9829:6289:2907:9994 (talk) 18:35, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Request on 19:04:22, 6 December 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Adicterow
Hi all, I'm having a lot of trouble getting my article published. I believe I have sufficient articles/proof but I keep getting rejected with little specific help as to how to fix any issues. The article in question is on Anne McCabe.

Many thanks!

Adicterow (talk) 19:04, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi . Of the draft's four sources, Studio Daily and Script Magazine are interviews – McCabe in McCabe's own words with little or no analysis by the interviewer. As such, they lack independence. Basically, talking about oneself doesn't make one notable. Manhattan Edit Workshop is a capsule bio supplied by McCabe, so also not independent. IMDb is user-generated, so not a reliable source (and therefore not something that can demonstrate notability either).


 * My own searches found another one-page interview in Emmy Magazine and a couple sentences about her in a Cinemaeditor article on a panel discussion in which she participated. The latter is the best source available, but falls far short of significant coverage. Your conflict of interest may blind you to this, but the inescapable conclusion is that the topic is not suitable for a Wikipedia article. --Worldbruce (talk) 20:37, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

19:36:48, 6 December 2018 review of submission by Farooqahmadbhat
Your feedback is highly appreciated Farooqahmadbhat (talk) 19:36, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

21:45:52, 6 December 2018 review of submission by Lordofthefloor
Hello! Since my article was rejected I have tried my best trying to understand and study the guidelines. I’m still not quite sure why it was rejected. But I have however updated the article with more content, links, and references that I could find. There’s probably a lot more to add, but since I am still learning I take one step at a time:)

I would really appreciate if you would review it once more, and maybe help me out if there is still things you consider missing, or could be better.

Thank you for your time. Cheers!

(Update December 7, I have added additional content and references, Thank you)

Lordofthefloor (talk) 21:45, 6 December 2018 (UTC)