Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2018 January 17

= January 17 =

Request on 07:52:29, 17 January 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Tarek Nour
Tarek Nour (talk) 07:52, 17 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi This appears to not be a Wikipedia article, see WP:NOT  Lee Vilenski  (talk • contribs) 08:22, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Tarek Nour - There are several possible interpretations of what you are trying to do, but none of them will get your draft into Wikipedia. It may be intended to be some sort of joke (but Wikipedia is not a humor repository), or a social media profile (but Wikipedia is not a social medium), or actually an effort at an autobiography (but it isn't a serious autobiography, and autobiographies are strongly discouraged).  Please stop resubmitting it.  It is likely to be tagged for deletion, and you might even be blocked for wasting the time of the reviewers and for not being here to contribute to the encyclopedia project.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:00, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

11:35:22, 17 January 2018 review of submission by Rudard
Hi. I included many footnotes with links to news clippings on Newspapers.com, which has a pay wall. The articles are no longer available elsewhere. One commenter told me that it's okay to do that but another said I should only link "clippings," which I do but they are behind the paywall. Is that okay? Rudard (talk) 11:35, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, see Newspapers.com. It's arguably better to cite to websites that anyone can view (simply, due to the nature of those reading), but it is not mandatory. You can simply cite to the offline sources, but it is always better to give as good a resource as you can. As per the link above, there are those that can verify newspaper.com citations for accuracy; so please do cite to the clippings if possible. I hope that's helpful. If you have another quiery, I would ask at the above link's talk page for information.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:15, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * In the context of newspapers.com, "clippings" are a special open access method of bypassing newspapers.com's paywall, so that all readers can read the entire article you are citing. You are not using this feature. We can't force you to use it, but it would be a really good idea if you did. There's a good writeup about it on the old signup page, Newspapers.com. Signups have since moved to here. If you aren't an active enough Wikipedia contributor for the Wikipedia Library to give you free newspapers.com access, you can ask at WP:RX that someone who does have access clip the articles for you. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:21, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

13:56:13, 17 January 2018 review of submission by 80.178.122.84
What does it mean that are references are good, but "need to be inclined?" How should we appropriately edit our references for our page to get published on Wikipedia? Thanks!

80.178.122.84 (talk) 13:56, 17 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi IP user. I think the reviewer meant "inlined", rather than inclined. So, you need to placed the references in the text. I also have an issue with this request, in that you say "our page". Are you working for Smarter Analyst? If you, you will need to see WP:COI, and state that you are involved with this company.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:49, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The real issue with the 'references' is that these are all just links to articles that mention Smarter Analyst. The references that a Wikipedia article must have are ones that show that other publications have written in depth about the subject of the article. As it stands, your draft just serves to promote your company, and I have flagged it for speedy deletion. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 17:14, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

15:54:32, 17 January 2018 review of draft by Kinkz27
Kinkz27 (talk) 15:54, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * this help desk is usually used by people who have submitted a draft and had it declined. You can submit your draft by clicking the "Submit your draft for review" that appears above it. Looking at the current state of the draft, it doesn't include any references, so you should add some before you submit. Please read Help:Referencing for beginners as a good starting point. 17:06, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

18:01:50, 17 January 2018 review of submission by 75.166.59.31
Why is it not accepted as the English language version of the German puplished article? see https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Schmalz_(Musiker)

See also discussion under https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:L%C3%B6schkandidaten/8._Mai_2017#Josef_Schmalz_(Musiker)_(LAE)

He has his own published CDs and LPs.


 * The Deutsche Nationalbibliothek shows him here:
 * http://d-nb.info/1031951865
 * http://d-nb.info/353844195
 * http://d-nb.info/353692956
 * The CD is showed here: http://www.heimathaus-billed.de/mediengalerie/musik/168-josef-schmalz and cover + booklet under
 * The LPs were published via Metronome in Hamburg, a noted publisher, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Music_Sweden
 * Two german public TV live performances may you find here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHLmyeULqVI and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7jd-oAyZmI
 * https://www.discogs.com/de/artist/4969183-Josef-Schmalz
 * plus https://www.discogs.com/de/artist/1489566-Original-Donauschwaben-Musikanten
 * German WP has cleared relevance.
 * Do you need more information?

Thanks for help! 75.166.59.31 (talk) 18:01, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The criteria for inclusion vary between different language versions of Wikipedia. Articles that may be acceptable in the German encyclopedia are not necessarily accepted in the English language version. For the criteria that applies here, please see WP:MUSICBIO. If you feel he meets one or more of those criteria then please either explain here or modify the draft to better reflect this. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 20:16, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Where should somebody search online for evidence and sources when there was no Internet at this time of life? --2003:EA:23CB:E400:600E:1C7C:C51A:2716 (talk) 09:23, 20 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Why is http://www.glogowatz.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/CD_Mein-Banater-Land.pdf not reliable to verify contect of the article? --2003:EA:23CB:E400:600E:1C7C:C51A:2716 (talk) 09:31, 20 January 2018 (UTC)


 * The CD insert is a reliable source for statements like "Schmalz got his first flugelhorn lessons at the Adam-Müller-Gutenbrunn Gymnasium in Arad, Romania at the age of 11." It is written by Schmalz, however, or people responsible for publicizing his work, so it is not independent of Schmalz and does nothing to demonstrate notability. Also, it may not be cited in a section heading. Part of the reason is technical, screen readers for the blind do not handle references in section headings well. Part of the reason is practical, the source doesn't support the entire contents of the section. Even if it did, the next editor might add something that isn't supported by the source. So in the interest of maintainability, use inline citations the way they're supposed to be used, at the end of the statements they support.


 * Just because the internet didn't exist when a source was originally published doesn't mean the source can't be found online. Many databases contain sources from the 1930s to the present. Some are available through The Wikipedia Library. For German language sources you may have better success at https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Recherche . Physical libraries are also excellent places to look for sources. Not only do they offer free access to many databases, they also have vast collections of offline sources. Wikipedia does not require that sources be online! --Worldbruce (talk) 17:01, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Request on 18:57:11, 17 January 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Mhoskins1234
I created an article about Ivan Raiklin that was not accepted because of the following: Candidates are not generally notable as per WP:NPOL. However, the candidate is mentioned in the wikipidea link, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Virginia,_2018#cite_note-5. Since the other declared candidates all have Wikipedia articles this creates an unfair advantage for the other candidates. How can this be remedied?

Mhoskins1234 (talk) 18:57, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * the distinction between Raiklin and the other candidates is that the others have notability independent of having stood for this election. Getting nominated isn't in itself a basis of notability. If Raiklin is successfully elected then he will be a valid subject for a biography. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 20:07, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * It is true that the fact that the other candidates are better known than Raiklin gives them an advantage. Wikipedia is a neutral encyclopedia.  It isn't up to Wikipedia to rectify an existing advantage.  Raiklin won't be nominated solely because he has a Wikipedia article and the other candidates also have Wikipedia articles if he isn't otherwise well known.  If Raiklin gets significant coverage in the Richmond Times-Dispatch or Virginian-Pilot or Washington Post, that will pass general notability.  Robert McClenon (talk) 03:29, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

20:45:37, 17 January 2018 review of submission by Jjab4566
I have two (2) Photographs of Dr. Jablecki from Scientific Newsletters I would like to add to the article. Please advise as to how I may do so. Jjab4566 (talk) 20:45, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

How do I add photo's to the Article? Also, I do not see a "Save Page" Button. Just "Publish Changes". Jjab4566 (talk) 22:28, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi . If the draft is accepted, then under the fair use provisions of copyright law you may add a photo for which you do not hold the copyright, provided that the image meets all ten of the criteria for the use of non-free content (see WP:NFCCP). Fair use does not apply while the page is a draft, so don't do anything yet. I have updated WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/preload to use the most recent name for the "Save page" button, "Publish changes". --Worldbruce (talk) 01:30, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

22:38:39, 17 January 2018 review of submission by LaCroizy
All I want to do is provide information about the music used in this film. There aren't too many publications about the soundtrack. That being said, the film uses classic Christmas tracks, and tracks sung by some of the prominent actors in the movie. How can I ensure that this content doesn't get removed? LaCroizy (talk) 22:38, 17 January 2018 (UTC)


 * The draft may refer to Draft:Pottersville (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack). Matthew_hk   t  c  14:19, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi . I assume the genesis of your question is that in declining Draft:Pottersville (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack), reviewer suggested that any reliably sourced content might be more appropriate in Pottersville (film). You twice tried adding information about the soundtrack there, but were reverted each time by, a major contributor to that article. Editorial decisions on Wikipedia are made by consensus. BOLD, revert, discuss cycle explains how this works. You've been bold and have been reverted, so now it's time to start a discussion on Talk:Pottersville (film). Explain there what you think should be added to the article and why, and then let the BRD cycle run its course. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:42, 20 January 2018 (UTC)