Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2018 July 7

= July 7 =

06:52:19, 7 July 2018 review of submission by Ringerfan23
The draft has gone a large expansion. I believe it passes criteria 1, 2, 4, 5, 8, and 10 of WP:Band. It has been declined in the past due to not having reliable sources. I disagree with this assessment, as the article has 69 sources now, including coverage by many notable publications, (1) including Chicago Reader, Allmusic, Ultimate Guitar, MetalSucks, Loudwire, Metal Hammer, Blabbermouth, Metal Injection, Huffington Post, among others. (2) The artist has an album that has charted on a country's national music chart (Belgium) (4) has received coverage for touring and festival performance. (5) has released albums on Ad Noiseam and Metal Blade Records. (8) Igorr's film score for was nominated for a Lumières Award ( one of the most prestigious French film industry awards according to it's wiki). (10) Igorr's film score was for the notable movie Jeannette: The Childhood of Joan of Arc.

I've also expanded the article with many sources from notable non-english newspapers. RF23 (talk) 06:52, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I would also like to point out that the reason for the first rejection was because one of the sources was from Facebook. However, the source is valid under WP:SELFPUB because the statement was about the band's affiliate dismissal, and the source was from the band itself. The band did not announce their dismissal anywhere else and third-parties (such as Metal Archives) did record it. Potasmic (talk) 18:01, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

13:44:36, 7 July 2018 review of submission by Lisaasturz
I have several newspaper articles from the early 1920's and beyond that support much of the text for the info submitted for review. Many of these articles are from a family scrapbook that does not include the newspaper heading and date so I cannot fully acknowledge the source. Is there a way I can upload the articles to verify the facts of the submission?

Lisa Sturz (Izso's granddaughter)

Lisaasturz (talk) 13:44, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid not. The point of citations is so that the reader can verify for herself what the cited reference says. If we do not have a publication name and date at a minimum, this cannot be done. A mere scan of a vaguely-identified clipping from a scrapbook, alas, does not satisfy our need for verifiability, which is not optional here. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  20:39, 7 July 2018 (UTC)