Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2018 June 29

= June 29 =

14:03:40, 29 June 2018 review of submission by ChicagoSHOUT
Hello, I wrote an article on a historic case in the foster care system, but it was denied for seeming like an advertisement for the acting attorney. I have quoted both parties as well as used all third-party sources. Can I get someone else opinion and feedback on this please? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hudson_v._Lutheran_Social_Services_of_Illinois

ChicagoSHOUT (talk) 14:03, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * This question was also asked at Help desk, where there have been some replies. In the interest of keeping discussion centralized, please contribute there, or simply review the draft (which the author has resubmitted). --Worldbruce (talk) 23:58, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Request on 15:56:47, 29 June 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by SheynePunem
Thank you so much for taking the time to review my submission.

I have edited my entry according to the guidelines kindly provided by Robert McClenon on May 15. All article points are verifiable facts. However, on June 1, Shadowowl, who generously gave his time to review the entry, felt that there were not enough "independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject". I have provided fifteen external independent, reliable, published references such as institutions websites like the Juilliard School of music, its French equivalent the CNSMDP, major media publishers like the New-York Times, the Jewish week, France Musique (THE national radio station dedicated to music), RCJ (the main French Jewish radio station), actual references to the subject's publications on the publishers websites, all the exact references of his recorded material, and announcements and reviews of some of his performances. Further included are internal links to the Wikipedia pages to the personnalities with whom the subject frequently works. Finally, only 2 links are productions of the subject of the article: the official website and the youtube channel. The number of external independent, reliable, published references of this article by far exceeds the number of references that I have seen on most wikipedia articles meeting the standards. I have only stated facts. I am at a loss on how to go from here. Sorry to take some more of your time, but could you help me here? Thank you very much in advance. Esther.

SheynePunem (talk) 15:56, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

17:00:17, 29 June 2018 review of submission by Ian.Kirkland76
I am unsure of why the footnote references have been rejected. I have purposefully tird to make sure the references follow your guidelines. Is it just a matter of where the. , and spaces are placed or am I missing something deeper. A little assistance would be gratefully received. Thank you Ian.Kirkland76 (talk) 17:00, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * - I think there are two main issues. The first is a lack of inline citations. The first, second, third, fifth, sixth and seventh paragraphs don't have any at all. Actually, the first shouldn't as it's the lead. But basically, you've a bunch of content that isn't sourced. The second issue is how you've done the sourcing that you do have. It baffles me - you seem to have embedded the links somehow. I'll redo Source 10, to show you how they should work. Give me a shout if you need more. All that aside, it's a very well-written, well-structured draft and much better sourced than much that we see at AFC. It can easily be got to an Acceptable state. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 17:57, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

18:39:35, 29 June 2018 review of submission by Easternfreestate
I am trying to make a page about myself, Etienne Kallos. The first draft was rejected for insufficient references, so I added two references to most pieces of information- but this seems like overkill and I would like to just use one reference for each piece of information but I do not know which references were problematic for you guys. Can you please be specific if there are still any refs that are not working for you? As I would then like to delete some references and make the article seems less laden with links. Thanks! Etienne Kallos

Easternfreestate (talk) 18:39, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello . The draft is in the pool of submissions to be reviewed and will be evaluated in due course. The longest that any draft has been waiting is about four weeks. Be advised that it is a spectacularly bad idea to write about yourself on Wikipedia. --Worldbruce (talk) 02:20, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

18:42:59, 29 June 2018 review of submission by Easternfreestate
I recently tried to rework the page for a recent film I wrote, directed and produced called The Harvesters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Harvesters_(film) but my changes were rejected. I am not sure who made this initial page but it does not contain all the information, does not contain all the producers, its very problematic for me! Who do I have to talk to to be able to rework the page of my film? thanks, Etienne Kallos

Easternfreestate (talk) 18:42, 29 June 2018 (UTC)


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22:14:03, 29 June 2018 review of submission by Kyle Ellis SF
After initial decline, I have included further third-party references and citations to increase credibility of the article. Please let me know if there are any other improvements I can make to the article to ensure it is published! Kyle Ellis SF (talk) 22:14, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * pending paid editing disclosure, see User talk:Kyle Ellis SF. --Worldbruce (talk) 02:05, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your declaration. The draft is in the pool to be evaluated, and will be reviewed in due course, probably within the next two weeks. At a glance, nothing jumps out as obviously notable about the company, so I'm not sure that any draft about it will be published. The draft uses external links incorrectly, but there's little point in fixing that while notability is in question. WP:BFAQ and the essay Inclusion is not an indicator of notability may help you understand the circumstances. --Worldbruce (talk) 00:55, 4 July 2018 (UTC)