Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2018 March 1

= March 1 =

06:52:59, 1 March 2018 review of submission by 123.176.34.17
123.176.34.17 (talk) 06:52, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

I am not trying to create an article about 'Suresh Manickavelu'. It is just a draft. As an Wikipedia user, i have the privilege to create drafts. kindly request you not to delete the Draft:Suresh Manickavelu' Page. I am not creating an article just a draft.

06:55:10, 1 March 2018 review of submission by 123.176.34.17
123.176.34.17 (talk) 06:55, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

06:55:10, 1 March 2018 review of submission by 123.176.34.17

08:13:51, 1 March 2018 review of submission by Danny Agoncillo
I'm drafting an article for publication in Wikipedia. It's about a company called Pacific Santa's Inc. I need help regarding the format of this kind of article, specifically the creation of the information box and the table of contents. How are these done? Danny Agoncillo (talk) 08:13, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Danny Agoncillo (talk) 08:13, 1 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, I see you've figured out the infobox. The table of contents is automatic, it appears as soon at there are four or more properly formatted section headings.
 * By the way, the notability of a company depends on what outsiders, such as journalists, have published about it. The mere fact that the company exists (or used to exist) and a description of what it does, is not enough for an acceptable article. So please dig through mainstream news, magazines, and similar publications for discussions about the company (but listings and simple mentions are not enough). Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:52, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

18:52:50, 1 March 2018 review of submission by Anic xx
HELLO WORLD! I am a volunteer from the Pillar Project(https://pillarproject.io/) and I am seeking assistance to learn the space and compose a wiki page that will help people learn what the pillar project is all about. Anything to help get the page going would not only be deeply appreciated by me but also would be appreciated by the pillar community as a whole. Thank you in advance! Anic xx (talk) 18:52, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * - Hi Anic, what your draft does is try to advertise the Pillar Project. Wikipedia's not the place for that, so I've tagged it for deletion. KJP1 (talk) 06:39, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

19:58:48, 1 March 2018 review of submission by Mrgmalone1
I am ask to show references but I have no references for I created the name and gave it to my son. I am Gerald Malone the father. I defined the name myself as it was given to my son by me. Because of this the article has been rejected as I understand. How do we fix this issue, there is no further references to provide nor needed as I was the names creator. Mrgmalone1 (talk) 19:58, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * - Hi Mr Malone, I'm afraid that without references, there can't be an article. Wikipedia's an online encyclopedia, and its articles cover subjects that are Notable. We define something as Notable if it has received "significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject". As there aren't any reliable sources that have written about your son's name, then there can't be an article. Best regards. KJP1 (talk) 06:35, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

23:54:33, 1 March 2018 review of submission by Okeeffemarc
Hello. i have submitted an AFC request via my sandbox to change the current main space article Pat O'Keeffe to reflect my draft.

1. I have a loose COI with the subject.

2. I understand that this process is normally for completely new articles.

3. I have previously submitted COI requests on The articles page.

4. I have been advised that as my COI request is a wholesale replacement of the article (90% of it being new content), it would be best to speak to you guys, as you are used to looking at requests of this scale.

5. I have briefly explained this in the AFC request, but thought it best to back that up with a more detailed explanation here.

6. I hope this is acceptable. Apologies if it is not. I certainly don't want to come across as pushy in any way.

Kind regards,

Okeeffemarc (talk) 23:54, 1 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, please see my post on the Talk page of the main Pat O'Keeffe page. The person who suggested AFC I submit was incorrect. AFC's biggest issue is "is this subject Notable?" and since Pat already has an existing page, that issue is long ago resolved. Your Draft is still useful though as a place to keep all your expanded info, but as folks on Talk have mentioned, you do have to go really step-by-step to integrate your content into the existing article. Don't think of it as a hassle, think of it as "peer review"; for each bit you want to add, you want someone else to take a look at it, make sure it's written clearly and has strong sources. And it might be that some parts just aren't up to snuff, but surely others are and will help expand the article. MatthewVanitas (talk) 08:00, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

03:45:26, 2 March 2018 review of submission by MickeyViolet
Would you please explain why my page has been declined this third time in such a rude manner? The reviewer said I had "stubbornly refused" to pay attention to comments but I have only just started editing Wikipedia and believed I was following earlier advice. MickeyViolet (talk) 03:45, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
 * - Hi Mickey and welcome to Wikipedia. I hope you don't mind but I combined your two queries into one. The three reviewers who earlier declined your draft were pointing out the problems it has. Briefly these are:


 * Notability - to show Notability, you need to show significant coverage from reliable sources independent of the subject;
 * Reliable sources - sources such as the paper's own site aren't independent; sources like Wikipedia can't be used to source itself; Twitter and Alexa analysis can't really support a claim for popularity; YouTube won't do as its content is user-driven;
 * Coverage - quite a few of your sources don't seem to support the claims made; e.g. Source 10 doesn't say Hirst is the political editor; Source 14 doesn't appear to mention IA in Pilger's biography; Source 15 doesn't say Wilson is a contributor; Source 16 (which isn't ok as it's Wikipedia - see above), doesn't seem to mention IA; Source 22 doesn't tell me anything about IA's investigation;
 * Embedded links to external sites - we don't use these in the body of the article, although relevant ones can go in a section at the end;
 * Neutral point of view - It's important the draft offers a Neutral overview of the subject. A unsourced statement like, "Committed to quality investigative journalism" isn't Neutral.
 * A quick search suggests that there probably is enough coverage to justify an article, but you'll need to address the problems the reviewers identified. If you do this and resubmit, I think you're likely to have an acceptable draft. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 07:12, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your polite and detailed advice. I will attempt to address these issues and resubmit. MickeyViolet (talk) 10:08, 2 March 2018 (UTC)