Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2018 November 10

= November 10 =

11:13:15, 10 November 2018 review of draft by Fish trace
Fish trace (talk) 11:13, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not a webhost for your user guide. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 12:14, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Request on 14:45:43, 10 November 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Demographichistorian
My article was submitted over 2 months ago ( which is the maximum review period ). Could someone review it or approve it. it is called draft:Greek atrocities in Macedonia and Thrace Demographichistorian (talk) 14:45, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Rejected. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 18:07, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

14:50:34, 10 November 2018 review of draft by Curnews
Draft rejected for no reference.Have added the reference.Would like to know whether the article looks good now for re-submission.

Curnews (talk) 14:50, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


 * The article just looks like part of India national football team. No lead, no prose, only two references. I would not approve it. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 18:08, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

17:05:15, 10 November 2018 review of draft by Alvanhholmes
I have submitted my draft for review, but I don'' understand he instruction: Reviewer tools Warning: This page should probably be moved to the Draft namespace.

When I clicked on Move to Draft spaces I came to a page which I didn't understand and which scared me. As it appeared to ask me to rename my article, and I don't know what the Draft space is in relation to my submission.

I would also like to start a draft on a new article, and don't know how to do that.

Thank you Alvanhholmes (talk) 17:05, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Alvanhholmes (talk) 17:05, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


 * The processes can be intimidating at first. I moved your page to Draft:William Farrar. To create a new page use the Article Wizard. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 18:13, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


 * The article looked good so I approved it. You need to work on your citation skills, otherwise good job. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 18:27, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

17:07:06, 10 November 2018 review of submission by ReaIestTruth
I'm just wondering, have i submitted my article properly? ReaIestTruth (talk) 17:07, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


 * You have submitted it correctly. Someone will review it in due course. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 18:10, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, would you be able to move it to draft as well, as it says i don't have perms to do it ReaIestTruth (talk) 18:17, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Will do Legacypac (talk) 18:21, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Cheers mate. much appreciated ReaIestTruth (talk) 18:35, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Sent to MfD. sorry Legacypac (talk) 20:55, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Request on 20:25:08, 10 November 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by HoustonProbate
Is there a way to appeal the decision of non-notability?

This is going to apply to all four articles I created, and I request the comments be consolidated: Draft:Jerry Simoneaux, Draft:Michael Newman (judge), Draft:Jason Cox and Draft:James S. Horwitz.

On Tuesday, Harris County Texas elected new probate judges, and I wished to create pages for them.

Judges in Texas are elected, partisan politicians, and these judges have 4.7 Million constituents. That is more constituents than 26 governors, 52 Senators and all 435 members of the House. More than Paul Ryan, Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell, John Bel Edwards, Tom Cotton, Gary Johnson, Jacky Rosen, Joe Manchin, Bernie Sanders and many others.

Judges elected from constituencies of nearly 5 million people are not constantly in the news, but seldom are state legislators. Still legislators are notable, because of the immense power they yield. The same goes for these public officials.

HoustonProbate (talk) 20:25, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

EDIT: I looked up y'alls' guideposts, and these judges are very obviously notable. Notability_(law).

These are high courts, as defined by your own standards, No. 4 (Superior Courts). These courts can also set binding precedent (No. 2).

These judges' jurisdiction do not extent to the whole of a state, but as noted, Harris County Texas is larger than 26 different states.

"If a judge, on account of the judicial office he holds, ranks higher in his country's official system of precedence than persons who have received an honour that satisfies criteria 1 of WP:ANYBIO rank, on account of that honour, in that system of precedence, then that judge is notable." <-- The County Treasurer Orlando Sanchez (politician) ranks lower on the official system of precedence.

HoustonProbate (talk) 20:25, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Houston, I'm afraid you're probably going to lose this one. Sanchez' article may not belong here; and in any case, the United States does not have "honours" and official systems of precedence like the Brits do; that passage you quote is for countries like the U.K. that do have these things in a way we Yanks do not. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  20:48, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 * It makes no reference to the aristocracy. It says "order of precedence." The United States does, in fact, have one. States and localities have informal ones as well. And in any case, the policy appears to encourage writing about jurists with massive jurisdictions, the same as state legislators. I fail to see any compelling reason these people are not notable. HoustonProbate (talk) 20:54, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Harris county is not the whole of a country, state or province. The notability guidelines are defined entirely on artificial constructs of area and population is not considered, the leader of a state in a small country with 20,000 inhabitants is treated as being notable and the leader of a county with 5 million inhabitants is not. Additionally there is no way you are going to convince anyone here that a probate court is equivalent to a high court. I would go on, but I suspect you are some kind of lawyer and the argument would be fruitless. If you really want to, you could publish one yourself and then see what the community says at AfD. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 21:26, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 * My suggestion also is to remember AfC is voluntary. Legacypac (talk) 21:41, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

22:10:44, 10 November 2018 review of submission by 68.103.78.155
I Put a Reference there and this should be accepted. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 22:10, 10 November 2018 (UTC) 68.103.78.155 (talk) 22:10, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Neither the sport nor the country is specified, thus there is insufficient context to even know what the article is about. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 22:23, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 * It's basketball and the footer has links to annual articles from the 1930's to last year. It needs work but this will be started by someone. I approved and expect it will be quickly improved. Legacypac (talk) 22:27, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Even I know that The semifinals and the championship will be held at Madison Square Garden on April 2-4 in New York City means America. You could also have followed the link to the 2019 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Tournament in the first sentence... &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 22:32, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

23:30:14, 10 November 2018 review of submission by 68.103.78.155
Can you fix the reference on the 2019 National Invitational Tournament Article Because I tried on the help desk article because I Got an error cause it didn't respond can you fix it please. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 23:30, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

68.103.78.155 (talk) 23:30, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I fixed it. Thank you for reaching out. Have a great day. Feel free to ask for more help in the future if you need it JC7V -talk  23:38, 10 November 2018 (UTC)