Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2018 November 21

= November 21 =

01:56:35, 21 November 2018 review of draft by 68.103.78.155
The 2019 NFL season by team template is not responding I created the template just now and it's not Responding. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 01:56, 21 November 2018 (UTC) 68.103.78.155 (talk) 01:56, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

05:14:02, 21 November 2018 review of submission by Paulestanton58
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Paulestanton58 (talk) 05:14, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

The reviewer judges the article lacks sufficient notability, but the article includes more independent news and analyst sources than other comparable articles, from top-tier industry analysts and trade journals. The topic is also notable in itself, as the company provides an independent alternative to industry leading firms such as Docker Inc, and Microsoft. In today's marketplace, where coverage is largely dictated by the firms with advertising dollars, the judgement as to what is notable should be tempered by the awareness that notability can drive the exclusion of important independent voices and alternatives. The judgement to discard this article really is an argument that people should remain ignorant of alternatives to the highly concentrated power from Microsoft and others.

05:49:15, 21 November 2018 review of submission by Technicalbabaji
Technicalbabaji (talk) 05:49, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

06:27:50, 21 November 2018 review of submission by Anxonic
Hi, thanks for taking the time out to review the page. I'm sorry it didn't meet the guidelines of Wikipedia before. I have edited the page in accordance with reviewer AngusWOOF's suggestion to provide more context and remove terms that make the page look like an advertisement. All the links referenced here are independent, notable media sources. Please reconsider this page for submission. I would be grateful for any further advice that helps make the language more neutral and makes the page more suited for Wikipedia.

Ankush (talk) 06:27, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

06:41:59, 21 November 2018 review of submission by Balajichf
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06:45:07, 21 November 2018 review of submission by Balajichf
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07:23:14, 21 November 2018 review of submission by Claudegriffin
Hi there, I am putting together a wikipedia page for the CEO of Cricket Tasmania and it has been rejected due to insufficient references. This is despite the fact that I feel that I have provided enough independent sources to prove that the subject requires a Wikipedia article. Cummins is the head of Cricket Tasmania, and his equivalents in other states in Australia (i.e. CEO of Cricket New South Wales, CEO of South Australian Cricket Association etc) do have wikipedia pages, so it doesn't make much sense.

Claudegriffin (talk) 07:23, 21 November 2018 (UTC)


 * , Good day. Kindly remove all sentences which do not support by inline citation and resubmit the draft. Once you have done that, kindly let me know so I would review and approve it. Thank you.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 09:48, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

08:48:21, 21 November 2018 review of submission by Ennex2
The answer to my question on November 7 said the problem was external links. Those links have now been removed, which has been acknowledged as helpful, but apparently was not enough.

As stated in that Novmber 7 question, the initial comment about this at WT: Software by AngusWOOF suggested comparing it with List of Unix commands. The columns in the table of that list correspond closely to columns in the proposed new table, and the proposed table has additional information. Could someone please explain, is there a reason that the list of Unix commands is suitable for Wikipedia and the list of Excel functions is not?

Thank you.

Ennex2 (talk) 08:48, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

09:12:54, 21 November 2018 review of draft by Curnews
To improve the article.How to add automatic numbering to the table and how to move content to the left of the cell in visual editing.

Curnews (talk) 09:12, 21 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi Good day. See Sorting and  for problematic options. I am not sure alignment would be done in visual editing on a table; however, pls check out Help:Table on how to format table in source editing mode. As here is Afticles for creation help desk, for further questions on these topics pls go to WP:HD. Thank you.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:10, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Request on 12:59:21, 21 November 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Zionprayermovementoutreach
Zionprayermovementoutreach (talk) 12:59, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

14:13:55, 21 November 2018 review of draft by 194.69.14.123
My latest submisson

I submitted an article request on November 12, but in the categories section on my pending article it says: "AfC submissions by date/12 November 2018" and "AfC pending submissions by age/2 days ago". This is definately incorrect, because November 12 wasn't two days ago! It's November 21, so it should say 9 days ago... I have tried to update and purge, but the "two days ago" remains. Has my article been caught in a time warp or something? Hoping for a quick response! 12:46, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Peter_Brace

194.69.14.123 (talk) 14:13, 21 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi there - I can't speak for yourself but your draft, at least, is not trapped on the 14th of November. It's coming up as "9 days ago" for me - I suspect your system isn't quite purging everything on your local copy, but that won't impact the reviewing stage! Nosebagbear (talk) 19:50, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

14:50:39, 21 November 2018 review of submission by 194.69.14.123
--- Duplicate request removed (answered directly above) Nosebagbear (talk)

Request on 16:52:02, 21 November 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Ldt6v8
This is article was rejected citing a lack of published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Every reference is an independent and well known news organization (CBS, Chicago Tribune, Times of Northwest Indiana), with publications centered around the subject.

What needs to be added?

Ldt6v8 (talk) 16:52, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

17:31:09, 21 November 2018 review of draft by Jimmyjam007
Inquiring about my submission (first time).

Hello, I am submitting for the first time. I was wondering if I was supposed to contact the subject that I prepared the article on. I do not know Adrian Clark personally but I have followed his career for a while. Should I contact him to let him know that I submitted a Wiki article? I don't want to get into legal troubles.

Jimmyjam007 (talk) 17:31, 21 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi - no need to contact the subject of your article (that could become very difficult!). Articles on living persons "BLP" are subject to stricter rules, particularly the need to use in-line references (which I can see you do know how to make) correctly. WP:BLPSOURCES is worth a read to make sure you tick all the boxes. Nosebagbear (talk) 19:54, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Request on 18:39:32, 21 November 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Yammmmmm
Hi the article I submitted for review yesterday was not accepted because part of the article is directly copied from the SOM website. There will only be one reference if citation is done. The admin mentioned that the act of paraphrasing sources is not allowed too. I would be grateful if anyone can tell me how do I proceed? Thanks

Yammmmmm (talk) 18:39, 21 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi - could you clarify what was said by "mentioned that the act of paraphrasing sources is not allowed too." - paraphrasing content is what you are supposed to do in the general course of things, but I want to clarify what was meant by "paraphrasing sources". I couldn't see any specific comment like that, unless it was on the deleted page. Nosebagbear (talk) 19:59, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 * , it wasn't, they got a standard . Sam Sailor 20:26, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Request on 20:10:17, 21 November 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Yammmmmm
User:Nosebagbear, hi thanks for your reply. Sorry for not making my message clear. Closely paraphrasing from a source is not allowed. And someone mentioned if my article is only extracted from one source, that particular organisation that I'm writing does not meet the requirement of notability. Is that right?

Yammmmmm (talk) 20:10, 21 November 2018 (UTC)


 * - ah, yes, that is correct - and it is on both counts. Proper paraphrasing is necessary to avoid copyvio risks. Notability, particularly for organisations, requires multiple high quality secondary sources that cover the topic in depth. Nosebagbear (talk) 20:38, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

21:20:39, 21 November 2018 review of submission by Gracelandet
I created a new article for "Courtney Hadwin" and moved it from my sandbox to submissions. However it appears there is an article already with the same name, but it is actually not a developed article - it is just a redirect. Is this going to pose a problem or should I have developed the article differently? Thank You!

Gracelandet (talk) 21:20, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 * . If the draft is accepted, the accepting reviewer will take care of the redirect in mainspace. The only thing you need be concerned about is making the draft as good as it can be. Note that neither the Daily Mail nor Wikipedia is a reliable source; they may not be used as references. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:36, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

23:35:13, 21 November 2018 review of submission by Jimmyjam007
Looking for understanding, why is Adrian Clark viewed as not notable for Wikipedia? He has two published books, featured in Forbes, Inc. and Black Enterprise magazine, owner of a notable company... Is it my submission that is being rejected, or the subject? Please advise. Jimmyjam007 (talk) 23:35, 21 November 2018 (UTC)