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= October 12 =

01:11:56, 12 October 2018 review of draft by Catiline52
Hi, I was wondering why the article was not accepted. The Wikipedia notability rules state that local politicians may be seen as notable if they have received national and international press coverage for being a spokesperson for a national issue. The person in question had several national Australian news articles about his role in banning Australia Day citizenship ceremonies and resulting reactions/protests towards it. He has also been covered by an international source, the American newspaper Jacobin.

In combination, the WP:POLOUTCOMES says "Leaders of registered political parties at the national or major sub-national (state, province, prefecture, etc.) level are sometimes considered notable despite their party's lack of electoral success." As a leader of a registered sub-national political party, and receiving national and international news for their political views, would the article not be considered notable by these criteria? Catiline52 (talk) 01:11, 12 October 2018 (UTC)


 * It is not a clearly notable topic. Although AfC could approve the article, it may well in its current state not survive AfD. If deleted at AfD it will not be possible to recreate it, unless perhaps he was elected to a state level position. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 08:37, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

01:36:15, 12 October 2018 review of draft by 68.103.78.155
Is the 2019 NCAA Division I Baseball season ready for article space cause it has 5 references. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 01:36, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

68.103.78.155 (talk) 01:36, 12 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Sorry but the article is full of broken, blank templates and has been declined. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 08:39, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

05:24:42, 12 October 2018 review of submission by EdwardJeromeButler
Why was the page was delated? EdwardJeromeButler (talk) 05:24, 12 October 2018 (UTC)


 * No one edited it for six months and it was deleted as stale. If you need to get it back, follow the instructions at WP:REFUND and it will be restored. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 08:41, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

06:56:20, 12 October 2018 review of draft by KarenRutter
Good day, I would like to request help regarding the rejection of my submitted article, see link below. I would like to resubmit, but want to be entirely sure that I am doing the right thing, next time around. I understand that I must rewrite the main body copy, and make the correct citations. But the section on Affiliates is just a collection of organisations with links - why would this be incorrect? Please could you advise me? Best regards, Karen Rutter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:International_Federation_of_Workers%E2%80%99_Education_Associations_-_IFWEA#Submitting_draft_article_International_Federation_of_Workers%E2%80%99_Education_Associations_-_IFWEA

KarenRutter (talk) 06:56, 12 October 2018 (UTC)


 * External links in the main article are not allowed. One or two external links in an external links section at the bottom of the article after the references is allowed, but that should be it. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 08:45, 12 October 2018 (UTC)


 * the draft has an even more serious (in fact fatal) flaw. You have so far not cited even one independent source. In effect that means all you've done so far merely proves that it does exist, but not that anyone outside of its own members and associates actually care that it does. That is the core of notability. I'd strongly advise you to thoroughly read the notability standard for organizations and attempt to comply. Failing that, the draft will inevitably be declined again. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:24, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

08:53:49, 12 October 2018 review of draft by SiddiqFarooq
SiddiqFarooq (talk) 08:53, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Need assistance in fixing & reviewing the article dear wikipedia members.


 * The article looks good on the surface, but what steps have been made to address the issues of Articles for deletion/Kamal Mustafa (DJ)? &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 08:58, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * There is no evidence the subject passes WP:NMUSIC. Page up for deletion. Poster has been deleting a whole section off my talkpage, asserting Wikipedians hate Muslims and Pakistanis, and otherwise being a jerk with no agenda but promoting his employer. Legacypac (talk) 11:26, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

11:17:53, 12 October 2018 review of draft by Wiseseven
I am requesting feedback on an article article that I created that was previously deleted deleted due to lack of proper references that impacted notability. I have addressed the comments made in the proposed deletion process and have submitted the draft to the AfC process. I would appreciated any further feedback and edits on whether the references and citations are done correctly (new to wikipedia!) and any thoughts on notability of the article based on WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC and feedback on how this could be improved. Thank you! --Wiseseven (talk) 11:17, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Wiseseven (talk) 11:17, 12 October 2018 (UTC)


 * It looks like he did well at the Western Canadian Music Awards so notability could be more evident than previously. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 11:37, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * New Producer of the Year... I've approved the page. Legacypac (talk) 03:47, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Legacypac Thank you. I've added additional in depth, independent sources but it has been flagged again for notability. According to WP:BASIC there is now multiple, in-depth, independent sources combined to demonstrate notability. Under WP:ANYBIO Ryan has now been nominated twice and won the award once, constituting notability. Any feedback or thoughts? Or if you believe it is notable, can the maintenance message be removed?Wiseseven (talk) 21:28, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Make your comments on the article talk page where they will be seen by editors looking at the page. Legacypac (talk) 22:34, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

17:34:40, 12 October 2018 review of draft by Cnidocyst
I have found a cached version of a newspaper article that can be accessed online [reference 3], but it is not from the newspaper (the Toronto Star). I can find the original article from April 17, 2005 on Factiva, but not at the newspaper site. Can I link to that article on the paid Factiva database, or only to the freely available site? OR Under Wikipedia rules, can I cite the date and title of the article without linking out? Thanks! Cnidocyst (talk) 17:34, 12 October 2018 (UTC)


 * You can cite the date, title, and hopefully also author of the article as a citation without giving a link. A paywalled link is still perfectly acceptable. If you do use a paywalled link, the citation should be easy to read and know what is being referred to without following the link, as not everyone will be able to do so. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 17:53, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

17:50:28, 12 October 2018 review of draft by NowIsntItTime
Does a list for tv show characters such as this one really need to go through the AFC pending line or can it just be moved to the article space? Is it okay if I do so or should I continue waiting?

NowIsntItTime 17:50, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * AfC is optional unless you are a very new editor. I've approved the page and moved to mainspace. Goood job! Legacypac (talk) 03:44, 13 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Wow! Thank you very much! NowIsntItTime 04:10, 13 October 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NowIsntItTime (talk • contribs)

21:55:13, 12 October 2018 review of draft by Falco 98704
Hi there, I'm trying to create this page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Frances_Coady

but it got rejected due to the following reason:

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Please could you tell me specifically what I'd need to do to correct it to Wikipedia's standards?

I had a look at the "inline citations" help link, but I can't tell how the article needs to change to meet the criteria.

Any help you can offer would be much appreciated.

Falco 98704 (talk) 21:55, 12 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Use inline citations in tags as described in the instructions linked. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 21:57, 12 October 2018 (UTC)