Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2018 October 15

= October 15 =

05:12:57, 15 October 2018 review of submission by Sculture65
I'm happy that the GeTai Challenge 2018 article have been reviewed and accepted, and currently I am doing those past seasons and a main show. I did all the tuneup for the article, it should be enough to check. (Sculture65 (talk) 05:12, 15 October 2018 (UTC))


 * Approved both. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 11:22, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

10:53:17, 15 October 2018 review of submission by Jole222
Hi, so my question is, what makes a company notable? I found about 100 different companies, that have a similar profile on Wikipedia as C.C.P. Contact Probes. The reason I am writing an article about it is, that it is a stock listed company and as such, a broader number of investors and the public have an interest in it. There is even a Wikipedia list of "stock listed companies of Taiwan". How can this list be complete if stock listed companies cant be submitted. As for myself, I wanted to buy the stock and didn't found any resources in English: For me a good opportunity to get into Wikipedia. I so far have only contributed on OpenStreetMap and I enjoy this kind of voluntary work.

My question now would be. What does these companies make them notable for a Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulead_Systems https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mennekes_(Unternehmen) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVer_Information https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking_Electronic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TECO_Electric_and_Machinery and so on...

DGG also states that this seems to be a promotional article and I don't really understand at which point this article does promote the company. It pretty much only states the facts that I could find on different newspapers, financial data portals and the Annual Report. I hope you can help me to improve the article, as it is my first one. Thank you in advance!!!

Jole222 (talk) 10:53, 15 October 2018 (UTC)


 * One problem is that everything in a company's annual report is normally unsuitable for Wikipedia. Generally financial portal information has the same problem. Another problem is the articles you are working off are not themselves suitable for Wikipedia either, but are already published. Not all companies listed on a stock exchange can also be listed on Wikipedia, although I understand the idea. A manufacturer like this is not a high profile company and does not have enough said about it in reliable sources such as newspapers to show notability. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 11:32, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Why is publically reported info as found in an Annual Report or on Financial websites not acceptable? All public companies listed on major stock exchanges are pretty much presumed notable per WP:LISTED. The regulations and reporting requirements of being listed, along with the financial press coverage that results pretty much assure there is sufficent info out there to support an article. Legacypac (talk) 15:41, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you think TWSE listed companies are likely to survive AfD? As far as I can tell there are 917 companies listed, only 58 of which have articles on Wikipedia. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 16:03, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The TWSE is a major stock exchange with a long history. Language is why we don't have more coverage of its constituents. There is a public benefit for Wikipedia to cover listed companies. People's savings and pensions are invested in them. They are often large scale employers (this subject has about 1000 employees), plus a company like this will support numerous other jobs at its suppliers. Such a company has a greater and more meaningful impact on the world than many article subjects. Compare to a little known state legislator (automatic notability) or someone who was in the Olympics once (automatic pass) but who we can hardly find info on. So yes, properly explained, any WP:LISTED company on a major exchange should pass AfD. Legacypac (talk) 16:34, 15 October 2018 (UTC)


 * did reject it, but I have have approved the article now regardless. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 16:51, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much, also for the edit. I will add more sources in the next days and I would appreciate changes and co-writing on the article to improve it. Regarding analyst reports: Do they have to be publicly available? I found some reports, that have to be paid for. Is a reference to these reports acceptable? Jole222 (talk) 10:53, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * You can reference any source, even if it has to be paid for or is not on the internet. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 17:28, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

13:41:48, 15 October 2018 review of draft by Bmasi
Could you please inform me whether I have submitted my article Lara Porzak correctly as I have not heard back from Wikipedia in months! Many thanks

Bmasi (talk) 13:41, 15 October 2018 (UTC)


 * It is correctly submitted. I removed some of the decline templates from when it was a duplicate draft. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 14:16, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

16:03:18, 15 October 2018 review of submission by Srsval
Hi, I created a Wikipedia page for 'Classics for All' but it was deleted. The editor advised me on my talk page to "Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer. You are welcome to edit the submission to address the issues raised, and resubmit if you feel they have been resolved." but I can't find my submission or the comments left by the reviewer. I left a message on the reviewer's talk page but they haven't got back to me. Could you point me towards where I can find the feedback so that I can find out why it was deleted? Many thanks for your help! Srsval (talk) 16:03, 15 October 2018 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classics_for_All
 * Not sure what the question is. The page is already in mainspace see link above. Legacypac (talk) 20:35, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

16:25:38, 15 October 2018 review of submission by Htewarso
Could you tell me, what your message re "Legacypac' means. Where is my article at this point? How do I access and finalize it (references; foto; links)? I had HUAN as a helper, but he has not responded for some time. I also was out of town and am replying only now. Finally, could you look for Jenny Koller/Jenny Thomann-Koller on de.Wikipedia, where the complete article exists. Thank you for getting in touch - looking forward to hearing from you!Htewarso (talk) 16:25, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Htewarso (talk) 16:25, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The article is published at Jenny Thomann-Koller where I suggest you continue to improve it. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_Thomann-Koller in German even has an image of the subject. Legacypac (talk) 17:29, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

20:04:56, 15 October 2018 review of submission by StCloudKMO
I am wondering if I could get some feedback on an article that was previously declined due to promotional language and notability issues. I have removed the links that I believe were impacting the notability. I have adjusted the content to remove any promotional language but would appreciate any feedback and edits to improve upon this. Also, if you have any comments on the notability, that would be appreciated as well (new to this). Thank you! StCloudKMO (talk) 20:04, 15 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Approved. I removed a great deal more content, you should try and get a feel for neutral encyclopedic language by editing other articles. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 20:18, 15 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Much appreciated. I will look to edit more articles before creating one. &mdash; StCloudKMO (talk) 20:34, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Request on 21:30:45, 15 October 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Rishin Chatterjee
Hi, we are small company based out of Regina, Canada and would like publish regarding the work we do. I had written an article but it was declined for the following reasons:

"Need sources independent of the subject and that isn't a press release."

We did have a couple of published videos and articles but they were an interview and a press release.

As a small company we are not big enough yet for the independent press to notice us. However we do aim to grow like our competitors like Instacart, Drizly, INabuggy etc.

Can you please let us know how to write our article so that we can get it published.

Awaiting your reply at the earliest please.

Rishin 21:30, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * You have very clearly explained why your company can not meet WP:NCORP. Wikipedia only covers companies that get independant coverage. Wikipedia should not be part of your PR strategy. Legacypac (talk) 21:44, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I have tagged the draft for deletion as unambiguous advertising. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 22:05, 15 October 2018 (UTC)