Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2018 October 19

= October 19 =

Request on 02:39:14, 19 October 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Lisasasa1998
Content that violates any copyrights will be deleted.

Lisasasa1998 (talk) 02:39, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The only edit by this acct so no idea what they are talking about. Legacypac (talk) 03:05, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * After posting this the editor created copyvios at User:Lisasasa1998/sandbox and Draft:CAAI Transactions on Intelligence Technology. These have been declined by and tagged as G12. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 08:45, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

06:10:16, 19 October 2018 review of submission by 122.179.36.62
Can you please clarify why this isn't notable since:

1. NetSim has been in existence for more than 14 years and has attracted attention over a significant period of time 2. There are sufficient existence of independent sources on NetSim 3. There is significant coverage 4. There are several other Wikipedia articles on software products which have far less coverage than NetSim

122.179.36.62 (talk) 06:10, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


 * There is insufficient coverage in independant reliable sources. The other points are not relevant to why the draft was declined. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 08:49, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

13:56:10, 19 October 2018 review of draft by Ithorpe508
I'm trying to publish a wiki page for an up and coming Hip Hop/Pop star. He's won a Timbaland song competition, done interviews, shows, and gained a following on social media with the help of his music which is found on all music streaming services. He is also a software engineer that worked for apple and just recently signed with Google. He lives a double life of an engineer and musician, and The Wall Street Journal wrote about him (Brandon Tory) the other day. I thought this is what he needed to meet the expectations of significant coverage from a secondary source to meet standards for musical notability. But I keep getting my submissions rejected. Please help me get this up. Ithorpe508 (talk) 13:56, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Ithorpe508 (talk) 13:56, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I can't see how he meets WP:NMUSIC yet. Weirdly promotional page too. Legacypac (talk) 14:41, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


 * At best it's too soon. Wikipedia generally covers established musicians that have been written about in multiple national newspapers and have had songs on major music charts. Up and coming does not mean notable. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 15:37, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

19:48:22, 19 October 2018 review of submission by HamishMc
Hello!

The article I created for my father's 150+ year-old business was denied, and regrettably, deleted. In the interest of being able to correct the issues that led to its deletion so that I may make another attempt, or just to preserve the info I researched for its creation so that I may add it to the business' website, I was wondering whether there were any chance of recovery of the content of the article? I'm not sure I made a backup copy and I'd very much love to be able to try again if the issues were fixable.

Thank you very much!

HamishMc (talk) 19:48, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Contact the Admin that deleted it, via their talkpage where you can often email them. Only an Admin can get the info for you and email it. Legacypac (talk) 20:05, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

19:57:17, 19 October 2018 review of draft by Liz at Sprout
Hi, I am looking for a little guidance to improve the sources so this article is acceptable for submission, especially considering that Sprout is a platform with a specific niche (social media marketing) usage that may not be covered frequently in large publications. We currently have sources that include independent, notable publications (Chicago Tribune, Chicago Business, GlassDoor, WSJ, TechCrunch) as well as important sources to our niche (Next Web, Marketing Land, MarTech Advisor) as well as some of our own pages referencing our specific feature list. This seems in keeping with some relatively similar services & platforms (LogMeIn,Wix.com,Marketo,Wistia,Bitly,Appian_Corporation are among the ones I've been reviewing). I have gathered a number of additional URLs & ideas about new sources to cite, but can you help me understand what aspect of the sources is most lacking right now (need more notable publications, need more independent reviews, etc) so I have more direction? Thanks in advance for any assistance. Liz at Sprout (talk) 19:57, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Liz at Sprout (talk) 19:57, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * You should not be writing about your own company, as it is hard to be objective. If your company is really notable someone unconnected will write up a page. Have you done the WP:COI and WP:PAID steps? Legacypac (talk) 20:03, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I have done the COI before to the best of my knowledge and I have added the Paid disclosure - I previously (it appears incorrectly) thought this might be for a freelance writer or similar situation. I am trying to resubmit the article because it was was previously deleted for the appearance of advertising. We're attempting to ensure the article maintains a factual & neutral tone & follow all of the guidelines such as WP:RS. Any guidance on what type of sources we are most lacking is appreciated.Liz at Sprout (talk) 21:20, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


 * To put it bluntly the article is awful. To stand any chance at getting this approved you need to get the article completely rewritten with some new sources to show notability and less primary sources and press releases. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 22:05, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback, I have updated the article with sources (with the one exception being a Sproutsocial.com link stating the languages the platform supports) that are third-party and not press releases, including sites relevant to the tech/marketing niche such as TechCrunch, Crain's Chicago Business, WSJ, etc. Thanks for any further comments that would help make this article acceptable for submission. Liz at Sprout (talk) 19:09, 22 October 2018 (UTC)