Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2018 October 26

= October 26 =

01:47:41, 26 October 2018 review of draft by Ouzas
Ouzas (talk) 01:47, 26 October 2018 (UTC) I am trying to publish an article and my submission is rejected. The explanation I receive is the following:

The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you

And I do not understand exactly what is means and cannot figure out how to fix it despite the Reference for beginners instructions. Can someone help me?

It is a very simple article about a recognised architect and his work. I have included a list of publications on his work (generally articles on newspapers or magazines). I have called the list of publications "References" and hiperlinked every item so you can link easily to the specific article if available online. Is this the problem? Ouzas (talk) 01:47, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

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 * You need to put those links in ref tags. Like  then put the link in the ref tags after the full stop at the end of a sentence. The content of the sentence should be verified by the reference following it. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 10:00, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

01:58:45, 26 October 2018 review of draft by GKatsiris
Hello. I have been working on a draft page of Francisco Mora Catlett and received a "talk" message that most of it has been deleted due to copyright issues/ plagiarism. However, it does not indicate which sections were problematic or which source they infringe upon. In addition to most of the text being removed, I see the photo is also missing. I uploaded the photo to the Commons with all permissions granted and cited. Please help me understand what I am doing wrong so that I can correct it and not make same mistakes again. GKatsiris (talk) 01:58, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Greetings. Please note that Wikipedia takes copyright infringement very seriously as it entails legal implication. Content should be written on your own words and it should be supported by independent, reliable sources which the sources talk about the subject in length and in dept. Pls see the article's history page to find out the copyrighted article HERE. Thank you.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:57, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * A source was given; remove copyright content copied from https://jazzdelapena.com/profiles/artist-profile-drummer-composer-leader-visionary-francisco-mora-catlett ; see the iThenticate report. The sections affected are the ones that were removed. The lesson here is don't copy, you need to try and do something different. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 17:13, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

02:45:10, 26 October 2018 review of submission by KSwaroop20
Added external references for better understanding of the article. The information supplied by these resources provide further details about the article. KSwaroop20 (talk) 02:45, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Greetings. Pls note that inline citations is what we looking for and not external links. pls read referencing for beginners to understand how to insert a inline citation. Secondly pls note content need to support independent, reliable sources which the sources talk about the subject in length and dept. Thirdly, pls note that Wikipedia CAN NOT be the source (pls see WP:CIRCULAR AND sources from user content site such as facebook, twitter, home page and etc) are considered NOT independent and can not use to demonstrate the notability of the subject. Lastly, pls see politician notability  to understand the requirements needed. Thank you  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:07, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * This person passes WP:NPOL I cleaned up the page and noted where you need sources to support the claims. All the detail about his father and kids is inappropriate. Resubmit when you have added the sources (I expect some might not be in English) 06:39, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Even for a person who passes NPOL as an MLA, you still need to show better referencing than this actually cites before an article about him can actually be approved. All I see for referencing here is a list of the district's MLAs, a raw table of election results and a page that tangentially verifies the existence of a government agency named in the article body while completely failing to mention anybody named Umesh Shukla at all. These are not sources that make a politician notable — what you need to show is some evidence of media coverage about him, such as newspaper or magazine articles, not just cursory primary sources like these. No, the sources don't have to be in English — you can use sources in Hindi or Marathi or Telugu if you've got 'em — but they do have to support more substance about him than just verifying that he exists. Bearcat (talk) 06:11, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

05:20:49, 26 October 2018 review of draft by Lord Beowulf
Ok, so someone is going to have to decide exactly what it is you're looking for and enforce that equally. I originally created a detailed page with references and information matching most of the other observatory pages referenced from this List of astronomical observatories and was told it read more like an advertisement, although it contained essentially the same information as those other more detailed pages. So then I stripped all of that out and duplicated one of the basic pages (all approved) that just gave the basic details. Now I'm told there's not enough information. The above reference shows links to hundreds of approved Wikipedia pages exactly like the two I've attempted to submit, but I've been rejected at both extremes. What gives? If those pages are good enough then why aren't mine? If mine aren't good enough, then why is the page I copied and modified to create the stub I submitted allowed? That doesn't seem right. If the two reviewers could get together and agree on what they're really looking for, that would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Beo

Lord Beowulf (talk) 05:20, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * We are all volunteers trying to help new or unregistered users. There is of course a range of opinion on any draft. AfC is optional - move the page yourself. Legacypac (talk) 05:45, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Greetings. Pls note a page in mainspace does not mean it has met the requirement of Wikipedia and it should not take it as the benchmark article but one should seek to meet the guidelines of what is required. Secondly, any articles in the main space in Wikipedia could subject for nomination of  AfD (article for deletion) it the nominator deem the article fall the notability guidelines Lastly, pls read Other stuff exists. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:15, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the additional information. Appreciate the help.  I want to play by the rules, but it felt like I was getting bounced around by two differing opinions of the reviewers.  Thanks again.  Beo


 * There is some local news coverage, but I can't be certain on the notability of the observatory. Generally speaking people look for adverts to delete over and above short stubs. What the reviewers are really looking for is somewhere in between, but with five or ten news reports from regional newspapers and maybe a mention in a book. The ideal article is rare so don't worry too much about it. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 17:09, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

07:06:55, 26 October 2018 review of draft by 122.170.210.251
122.170.210.251 (talk) 07:06, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Nominated for deletion - last deleted just in July 2018 Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Abdul Quadir Amin (2nd nomination). Please stop submitting pages on this person. Legacypac (talk) 07:48, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

13:34:30, 26 October 2018 review of submission by Gownssews
My article was denied on the grounds that it is more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Could I have some more clarity on why this is? I also do not believe the sources used were biased as they come from reputable organizations such as WAN-IFRA, and most of them were not produced by the subject of the article. Thanks in advance. Gownssews (talk) 13:34, 26 October 2018 (UTC) Gownssews (talk) 13:34, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Most the sources are either written by him or by organisations close to him and are thus primary sources. Other than Crunchbase I doubt any of the sources meet Wikipedia criteria. He also is not very significant as a CEO, all his companies are local newspapers and media. If he was the founder of Africa's biggest news portal, or even the #1 in Egypt then maybe. #4000 does not show a great deal of promise. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 16:59, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

16:01:56, 26 October 2018 review of submission by Aditya Pratap Singh Raghuvanshi
Aditya Pratap Singh Raghuvanshi (talk) 16:01, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * No. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 17:01, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Request on 19:06:15, 26 October 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by 1Dreamer2
Hello... my page submission got deleted because the reference was not considered suitable. The reference used was IMDB.com (Internet Movie Data Base) I want to challenge that as it is a reputable database used by the entire Hollywood Industry for professional information. In order to be on it- IMDB has to accept and approve- which is not easy to do. How can I go about this?

1Dreamer2 (talk) 19:06, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * IMDB is user generated content without editorial control. Like Wikipedia itself, it is not considered a WP:Reliable Source Legacypac (talk) 20:00, 26 October 2018 (UTC)