Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2019 August 7

= August 7 =

06:05:51, 7 August 2019 review of submission by Platipusica
Hi guys! Can anyone advise why was this page moved to Draft? Looks like the Reviewer (SamHolt6), advised that "the article is primary to WP:PRIMARY sources, and was declined by WP:AFC several times. Incubate." What does it mean Incubate? I see heaps of Web Frameworks approved even with less references, not sure what is the norm. One example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottle_(web_framework), has less references (5), so why double standards? Or this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagare_(web_framework), or: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webware_for_Python ???? Amassing. Not a single external reference for both! I do not understand this process, it's frustrating to say at least. I've collected 7 references, tried my best to present this info here, and did not receive any communication that the page was moved to Draft! Any communication at all. Nothing on Talk either, here is citation from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Drafts" "As a matter of good practice the editor moving a page to draft should mark its talk page with the tags of any relevant projects as a means of soliciting improvements from interested editors." So what do I do now? Wait till December b/c someone decided that this is not good enough? And than another year if rejected again? Guys, if that is so, half of the Web Frameworks (free and Open source software) should be put back to Draft on the basis of notability. Like this I've mentioned above. Very disappointing for the first time Wikipedia contributor. You just lost me. Not worth my time, sorry. Gone surfing.... Platipusica (talk) 06:05, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Really guys? So now the Reviewer (Theroadislong) is saying that "This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia." And previously other Reviewers (StraussInTheHouse‬, Mjs1991‬) did not have any criticism on that note, but they requested more References, which I've clearly provided. Looks like some articles can be published with no References and notability what so ever.
 * other crap exists is not a good argument for creating an article.The first sentence "primary goal is to allow development of database-driven business web applications easily and quickly, based on DRY principle, with emphasis on CRUD." seems like straight forward advertising speak to me? Theroadislong (talk) 09:34, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I am with you. However, why no one advised me about this 6 months ago? How shall I write this in non advertising manner, which changes to implement if :other crap exists is not relevant at all? Thanks

08:30:32, 7 August 2019 review of draft by Yabirkaur31
Yabirkaur31 (talk) 08:30, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

09:45:51, 7 August 2019 review of submission by 2409:4063:4E02:CBB:0:0:A7C8:6605
2409:4063:4E02:CBB:0:0:A7C8:6605 (talk) 09:45, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

11:30:01, 7 August 2019 review of submission by Kribondhar
Hi, Hope everything is fine with you. I have made every necessary changes to the article camping co  but still there is issue with the notability of the subject as commented. I have attached two newspaper mentions as of now also few article mentions about the subject in various websites. Also i am in the search for more digital copies of news mentions. So it will be very helpful if you suggest and help me in publishing this article. As this will get a better educational visibility about such a venture idea which will eventually add values in the tourism sector of the northeast India

Thanks in advance with regards Krishanu Kribondhar (talk) 11:30, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Your draft was rejected because the topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. I'm afraid Wikipedia has no interest in promoting the tourism sector of the northeast India or any where else for that matter. Theroadislong (talk) 13:15, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Request on 12:13:51, 7 August 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by ErKaranArora
Hi i have draft an article oh Hemant Brijwasi, who was 2 times winner of Indian reality singing competition but still his article disapproved. i want to know the actual reason Karan Arora 12:13, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi . The reason the draft was declined is that it fails to demonstrate that Brijwasi is notable (suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia). Proving notability requires significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable, secondary sources. IMDb, Wikipedia, wikibio, rightbiography, and starsUnfolded are not reliable sources. The article in The Hindu is reliable, but is a primary source interview with little independent analysis by the interviewer. You may cite it, but it doesn't help demonstrate notability. While you look for better sources, keep in mind that singers who are only notable for participating in a reality television series may be redirected to an article about the series, until they have demonstrated that they are independently notable. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:04, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

14:02:37, 7 August 2019 review of draft by Zaara khan(Firdous Bano)
Zaara khan (talk) 14:02, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

I am writing an article about upcoming Telugu actress Zaara khan, I have mentioned her film name and its link, can you please tell me what is the exact reason, why it is declined.

Thanks in advance.


 * Hi . The draft has been deleted for being unambiguous advertising. Before that, it was declined three times for failing to demonstrate that Zaara Khan is notable (suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia). It would be extremely unusual for the encyclopedia to have an article about an actor who has had one supporting role in a run-of-the-mill film released last month. An actor is expected to be considerably further along in their career, with multiple significant roles (think top, lead, starring) in notable films, before their biography is published here. Now is WP:TOOSOON for Zaara Khan. Revisit the topic in a year or two, by which time more may have been written about her. --Worldbruce (talk) 03:15, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

15:46:03, 7 August 2019 review of submission by Manjeet.baranwal
While adding an article about Allround Automations, it needs to be linked to page PL/SQL Developer, where slight information about Allround Automations is already mentioned but not in details. So when we visit PL/SQL Developer article on wikipedia, when someone want to refer about Allround Automations, it can be easily referred. Its just about putting the information, like we have for many companies in wikipedia. Manjeet.baranwal (talk) 15:46, 7 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi . You may find WP:BFAQ informative. Most businesses are not notable. The guidelines for inclusion were tightened last year, so even many companies currently in Wikipedia no longer merit a stand alone article. They are being deleted or merged. The draft was declined because it failed to show that the company is notable and because it was more like an advertisement than an encyclopedia article. It was then deleted for being unambiguous advertising. --Worldbruce (talk) 03:28, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Request on 16:30:17, 7 August 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Jnthibeault
I am trying to get some constructive feedback on this draft article. It was rejected by an editor on July 10 for "undefined." If I can get a review with some feedback, that would be super appreciated.

Jnthibeault (talk) 16:30, 7 August 2019 (UTC) PAGE ]]) 18:11, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Pinging User:Dan arndt, the reviewer. The draft should not have been rejected without comment, and it should not have been nominated for deletion as copyright infringement when only small portions of the draft were copied from another page (and it this case, since they were copied from a patent, which generally isn't copyrighted, it shouldn't have been nominated at all). --Ahecht ([[User talk:Ahecht|TALK

20:46:28, 7 August 2019 review of submission by 8aularodriguez
Need direction, if this is not acceptable, this is information found on the web link, I provided.

8aularodriguez (talk) 20:46, 7 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi . The rejection of the draft it is meant to be final, to convey that the topic is not notable (not suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia). No amount of editing can fix the problem. You may wish to explore alternative outlets with different inclusion criteria. Wikipedia may not be used for advocacy, promotion, or public relations. --Worldbruce (talk) 03:34, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Request on 21:21:35, 7 August 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Ronnyjowe
Hi my article didn't get approved because it didn't have enough references to make it notable. Please can you advise me on how i can use the below links to verify notability?

https://themassifcentral.blog/2014/06/25/portrait-of-the-cycling-podcast/ https://www.rapha.cc/gb/en/stories/the-cycling-podcast-rapha https://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph-cycling-podcast/ https://www.pezcyclingnews.com/latestnews/pez-chat-richard-moore/ https://road.cc/content/review/239095-cycling-podcast-journey-through-cycling-year https://inrng.com/2018/07/tour-podcast-reviews/

In particular, this DCMS select committee report https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmselect/cmcumeds/366/36606.htm

Ronnyjowe (talk) 21:21, 7 August 2019 (UTC)