Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2019 December 1

= December 1 =

03:47:47, 1 December 2019 review of submission by Quietlaughter
The old page - Home County Folk Fest - is outdated. The name of the festival was changed several years ago. Our festival website should be enough verification for the creation of the new and corrected page. To decline the more accurate page with correct information is disappointing to say the least.

Please rectify this as soon as possible. quietlaughter (talk) 03:47, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * We don't replace articles when the name changes, we move the article to the new name, which I have now done. Theroadislong (talk) 13:43, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

13:25:15, 1 December 2019 review of submission by 76.255.140.50
76.255.140.50 (talk) 13:25, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * After 8 failed submissions, it is pretty clear that this article is not notable and it will not be improved to the level of an encyclopedic article. Please find something else on Wikipedia to edit. Captain Eek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 22:42, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

18:51:10, 1 December 2019 review of draft by CapnPhantasm
Dex YP is a digital marketing company that has been around, in one form or another, since 2010. There is currently an article on Wikipedia about them, but it was flagged for being too much like an advertisement.

The company recently changed its name to Thryv. They've asked me to fix the article for them, so I wrote a new article for Thryv in which I made every effort to remove the advertising language and stick to the facts.

My plan was to get this new article published, and then redirect the old Dex YP page to it. However, the article was rejected on 11/15 by SamHolt6. The reason he gave was "[t]his submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies)."

I actually did cite several references in my article, including BusinessWire, Marketwatch, Wall Street Journal, and LSA Insider. These articles were written specifically about the company. They didn't just mention it in passing.

I'd really like to get the outdated (and problematic) Dex YP article updated. Please advise.

CapnPhantasm (talk) 18:51, 1 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi
 * The company asking you to edit Wikipedia for them creates a conflict of interest for you. I've left more information about that on your talk page.
 * Because of your conflict of interest, avoid editing DexYP directly. Instead, propose any changes to it at Talk:DexYP.
 * When an entity changes its name, don't create a new page (Draft:Thryv). Instead, ask at Talk:DexYP that the existing page be moved to Thryv.
 * Of the references cited in the draft, Businesswire and Marketwatch are press releases, and LSA Insider is a trade publication. None of those help demonstrate notability. The draft's only source that helps do that is The Wall Street Journal. It isn't enough on its own. You may be able to demonstrate notability by combining it with USA Today and Reuters from the existing article, or you may find that the company is non-notable under the current criteria, and should be deleted from Wikipedia.
 * The bulk of any article should come from independent sources (e.g. The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, and Reuters). Wikipedia is not much interested in what the company says about itself on its web site, in press releases, or in regulatory filings.
 * --Worldbruce (talk) 13:24, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

20:01:37, 1 December 2019 review of submission by TabBytes
Hello moderator, I have added more information about it. I have also edited the title of the article. Please review it. Thanks TabBytes (talk) 20:01, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I have some comments, though not a full review. It still isn't in an appropriate form. Phrases like "An epitome of Creativity" don't belong in a Neutral article about the organization. Linkedin is not an appropriate reference, only one of the references is actually about Solecraft, the first one. I went looking through Wikipedia for a similar organization, and the closest that I found was Global Action Through Fashion. I'm not saying that it should be copied, but more to give you an idea on neutral phrasing and references.Naraht (talk) 20:14, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

21:49:57, 1 December 2019 review of draft by HattiePrice1011
I am confused as to why Wikipedia does not think a band should have it's own Wikipedia page

HattiePrice1011 (talk) 21:49, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , Howdy hello! We don't cover just anything on Wikipedia. We only cover things that are notable. To prove that, you need reliable sources. In terms of this article, you need several more sources. You also need to clean it up to meet our standards for an article. Remove all the social links, and make it read like an encyclopedia. For an example of a great article on bands, see The_Beatles. If you improve the article and find sources, it may be accepted. If you cannot find good sources, then the band is simply not notable and cannot have an article (see WP:BAND for the specific requirements). Captain Eek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 22:51, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

hello, thank you very much for the usefull feedback, do you know roughly how many sources would be acceptable and a link to help with formatting? as i am new to this — Preceding unsigned comment added by HattiePrice1011 (talk • contribs) 23:17, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * See Help:Referencing for beginners. shoy (reactions) 15:42, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

22:08:20, 1 December 2019 review of draft by Yehoiakin
Yehoiakin (talk) 22:08, 1 December 2019 (UTC) I am Jay P. Newcomb and I am trying to publish and article about myself and my book series. I am the reference and the source. So how do I add in other reference outside of myself for something of about which I am the primary source because I am the author of the works in question?
 * , Well thats the issue here. Wikipedia does not allow original research such as you are suggesting. Only reliable and independent sources, like books, magazines, media outlets, etc. are allowable. For a book series to be notable, ie have its own article, it must have at least 3 reviews (see the whole requirements at WP:NBOOK).
 * Furthermore, we strongly discourage people writing about themselves or things they are closely connected to, as that represents a conflict of interest. Anyone with a conflict must follow the guidelines at WP:COI. Captain Eek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 22:56, 1 December 2019 (UTC)