Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2019 December 23

= December 23 =

00:23:04, 23 December 2019 review of draft by Jeanbernard2019
I would like to get an unbiased review of this page as it seems I cannot get to the current reviewers. They aren't from the US and dont understand the notability of our senior US officials. I have also added dozens of articles including the cover of a business magazine https://issuu.com/businessreviewusa/docs/bc_usa_oct2019. He is literally on the cover. If this isn't notable then we should delete 50 percent of the articles on Wikipedia as most don't have such references. Please let me know what I need to do.

Jeanbernard2019 (talk) 00:23, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi . It's a mistake to add "dozens of articles" when a draft needs only three to demonstrate notability. Quality is far more important than quantity. Business Chief, the "business magazine" you link to, employs creatives, producers, and directors, and describes itself as "delivering world-class creative, video, PR and social media content." So no, being on the cover of it (or its sister publication Gigabit Magazine) is not notable. It only demonstrates an embarrassing desperation to promote him. What you need to do first is disclose your conflict of interest. --Worldbruce (talk) 04:02, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

08:08:10, 23 December 2019 review of submission by Editor940
There have been hundreds of news articles on prominent news sites like the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette regarding this situation. For it to be rejected on the basis of it not being a big enough thing is nonsense.

Editor940 (talk) 08:08, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi . If there have been hundreds of news articles about it in reliable sources, then cite three of them, instead of citing three copies of a press release. Don't make any statement about a living person without citing a reliable published source that supports it. --Worldbruce (talk) 12:40, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

08:11:32, 23 December 2019 review of submission by Madhunilav
Madhunilav (talk) 08:11, 23 December 2019 (UTC) Hi. How can I make my article notable? Should references be added for my content?


 * Hi . All content must be supported by reliable published sources. Most businesses are not notable. Do you have a connection to Preethi Vijay or Piwocart gallery? If so, you might be able to make the business notable by forgetting about Wikipedia and concentrating on making the business highly successful. That might eventually result in independent sources writing about it and/or its founder in depth.


 * Rejection is meant to be final, to convey that the topic is not presently notable (not suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia). No amount of editing can fix that problem. There is no option to re-submit Draft:Piwocart by Preethi Vijay because volunteers do not intend to review it again in the near future. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:39, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

09:10:47, 23 December 2019 review of submission by Splaybeats007
Need to index an approved page. Page ShareChat was approved and it's been more than 90 days. How do I index it?

Splaybeats007 (talk) 09:10, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * pending paid editing disclosure, see User talk:Splaybeats007. --Worldbruce (talk) 12:48, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Request on 09:43:32, 23 December 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Yaniv unger
Hi There I was trying to create an article about a new startup named BOOKAWAY. The main reason my article was decline is because I don't have enough substantial truly independent sources and citations as written to remain published. My problem is that I added all the credible, independent, secondary reference sources detailing information about significant milestones and events in the history of this company I have. and it's not enough...

I double-checked my self, I went and checked other pages in the same niche... They also don't have those substantial independent references you require now. we all using the same template, the same structure but still... my article was declined. and I wonder why? What else should I do? paying NYT and HTB to quote me?

Secondly, the article was worded as a promotional article or web page. I don't get it. nothing related to promotion. all are facts.

I would be extremely grateful if you could find the time to assist me in ensuring that I can make the necessary edits to secure approval for this submission.

Regards and thanks. Yaniv Yaniv unger (talk) 09:43, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Well for starters this is just blatant advertising…“Realizing there isn’t a simple way to book transport tickets online, Noam created an online landing page that offers one route – Manila to Banaue, operated by Bookaway’s first supplier - local travel agency.” Theroadislong (talk) 13:20, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

14:21:08, 23 December 2019 review of submission by AnuYog
I have made all the changes according to the reviewer's suggestions & comments. Kindly have a look & approve this page. AnuYog (talk)

Can anyone help? AnuYog (talk)

15:12:47, 23 December 2019 review of draft by Andy Halper
Andy Halper (talk) 15:12, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

I'm having trouble submitting my article for review. I've corrected my references several times and they're as good as they're going to be without more help. I think the article itself is fine. What do I need to do to submit my article for review? Thanks.
 * You need to click the large blue button which reads "Submit draft for review" looks like you didn't read WP:REFB as advised though? Theroadislong (talk) 16:10, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

15:39:58, 23 December 2019 review of submission by 122.176.208.146
122.176.208.146 (talk) 15:39, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

15:48:07, 23 December 2019 review of submission by Manojtaliyan2002
This is very important page, wikipedia should have information about all thing, if somebody want information about Chhur on wiki" How he find without this article?". It is big Village and very useful information are in this article. Manojtaliyan2002 (talk) 15:48, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , we are an encyclopedia, not a repository of all knowledge. In order to have an article, we require significant coverage in reliable independent sources, in order to ensure the article is based of information that is likely to be correct.  Oxon Alex    - talk  09:41, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

17:17:20, 23 December 2019 review of submission by Andy Halper
Andy Halper (talk) 17:17, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your help but I give up. The article is neutral and only repeats what is said in the sources cited (some of which are published). This is a frustrating process. I know you need to have rules but rejecting an article about a notable person (more accomplished than others who have articles in Wikipedia) seems counter productive to what you are trying to achieve as an encyclopedia. Thanks anyway.
 * Your draft Draft:Vivian Wang has not been rejected? You have not even submitted it for review yet! ALL sources need to be published and I'm not finding any so far that are independent. As regards "more accomplished than others who have articles in Wikipedia" please see other crap exists. Theroadislong (talk) 17:42, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

17:36:38, 23 December 2019 review of submission by 2605:E000:1C02:812E:554D:A2D3:8110:796B
What are you talking about? Click "expand credits" on the left, and you'll see:

NES producer Teddy Walton producer Swiff D producer Gravez producer Skyz Muzik producer WondaGurl producer FrancisGotHeat producer Hollywood Hot Sauce producer J-Louis producer Rob Holladay additional producer Wow Jones additional producer, producer, keyboard Boi-1da producer Allen Ritter co-producer Ayo producer Xeryus producer Keyz co-producer Pro Logic producer '''Mahxie producer''' Illmind producer IAMNOBODI producer Soundz producer T-Minus producer Frank Dukes producer Fingazz talk box

2605:E000:1C02:812E:554D:A2D3:8110:796B (talk) 17:36, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * A single tiny mention does not meet our standards. Articles need at least 3 reliable and independent sources with significant coverage (think several paragraphs) of the subject. Captain Eek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 20:18, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

17:45:58, 23 December 2019 review of draft by Zipster969
May I ask for specific suggestions about how to make it less like a marketing brochure? → The first draft was declined, with the feedback: "Remove PR language from the lead section". I removed the entire lead section in order to fully comply. I also removed some other sections (to help ensure the article would have a neutral point of view). → Despite making the suggested change, the article was declined a second time for the same reason. This time, though, there were no specifics (about how to make it less like a marketing brochure), and I'm not sure what else to do. Can you help? I'm probably too close to the subject as it does seem pretty neutral to me. The article also "has a range of independent, reliable, published sources", and zero "materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed". I'd appreciate any assistance.

Zipster969 (talk) 17:45, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , Hi! To me, the most promotional sections are the Rescue and Client sections. These sections seem more like what you would find on the service dog website, telling people how it works there. If you could include more information about the organization with broader strokes - that would be best! Wikipedia is not the "end all catch-all" of information - we are only a stepping stone for people in terms of information. Let us know if you have any other questions. Happy Editing. :) Snowycats (talk) 01:28, 27 December 2019 (UTC)