Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2019 June 20

= June 20 =

00:12:59, 20 June 2019 review of submission by 95.92.37.92
95.92.37.92 (talk) 00:12, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

I apologies, I was re-submitting the same thing without realising because I was supplied a google doc with the wikipedia ready formatting but it was badly organised. Is there any chance you could re-review the changes I've made? Thank you and I hope you guys can be a bit understanding with the situation.


 * - your draft's primary issues weren't formatting, but a need for better sourcing.


 * You have loads of sources, but an issue with finding ones of sufficient quality for a company. Companies have fairly high notability requirements.


 * You need sources which are "in-depth, secondary (newspapers, books etc), independent (which rules out interviews) and reliable". Sources which many companies have (share prices, IPO declarations etc aren't suitable - see WP:ORGCRIT for a easy but more in-depth consideration).


 * Finally, blanketing an article with sources actually slows down consideration of reviews. Put the top 4 sources that meet all of the above on the talk page - it'll massively ease the process. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:23, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

05:05:11, 20 June 2019 review of submission by Brickpa
My article about sabari anandhan has reviewed as sufficiently not notable for inclusion on wikipedia. I had clearly mentioned all citations needed for the article and also I had mentioned citations which are externally needed to link with the Subject Brickpa (talk) 05:05, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, you have not added independent, reliable sources that actually discuss Anandhan in detail. The Loyola Young Entrepreneur magazine article, for example, might be a good source but you have not linked to it directly. Please add multiple sources of that nature in order to show that the topic is sufficiently notable for Wikipedia. Nolelover (talk) 14:50, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

06:40:42, 20 June 2019 review of submission by Andreas Overbeck
Andreas Overbeck (talk) 06:40, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi there,

How can all competitors in the collaborative space be listed on Wikipedia (with an objective description) while SquidHub cannot. Here's a list of just a few:

- Redbooth - Wrike - Teamwork.com - Basecamp (company) - Asana (software) - Trello

You'll see a lot of collaborative/project management/productivity companies being listed if you look at e.g.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Project_management_software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Collaborative_software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Groupware

The SquidHub article is written in the same objective and descriptive way as all the other companies listed on Wikipedia. Therefore, we would kindly ask you to review the article again and consider it appropriate for publishing. If you still find it inappropriate, then please let us know what is required before it can be accepted at the same level as all other collaborative platforms currently listed on Wikipedia.

If you need external validation on the platform, you can check some of the articles published by authorative sources like TechRepublic: https://squidhub.com/news

All the best, Andreas
 * pending paid editing disclosure, see User talk:Andreas Overbeck. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:41, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

07:43:59, 20 June 2019 review of submission by Brickpa
My article about sabari anandhan has been marked as not notable for inclusion on wikipedia. I had clearly mentioned all citations needed for the article which I wrote and also I had mentioned all required External links for this articles. And help me for further changes need for this article. Thanks... Brickpa (talk) 07:43, 20 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Duplicate request for above. Please don't make a duplicate until 48 hours have passed without a reply Nosebagbear (talk) 10:24, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

10:16:13, 20 June 2019 review of submission by Arunkx
This is the article about the world’s only Astro- Scientist who researched and amassed immense knowledge on astrology and made all his efforts to rectify the mistakes followed in Astrology. People come to him and believes in his predictions. He is a big influencer and works for the betterment of society. Arunkx (talk) 10:16, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, none of the sources you have provided are independent and reliable. Please add sources like that which discuss Vashist in significant detail, or else the topic is likely not appropriate for Wikipedia. Nolelover (talk) 14:47, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Nolelover, I have edited the article and have provided the source. Could you please review it again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunkx (talk • contribs) 04:16, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , I looked again but it doesn't appear that your new sources are what Wikipedia requires. For example, a newspaper article would be reliable and independent, and would need to discuss Vashist in detail. Most of them are just home pages of things mentioned in the article. None of the links you've added are independent, or even really discuss the subject of the article. For example, linking to the google play store listing for an app is not the same as linking to a independent journalist writing about the app. Does that make sense? Nole  (chat·edits) 04:57, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Nolelover, that made more sense. Thanks for the advice. I have added and edited the sources which now doesn't point to an application in play store and all. Kindly have a look — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunkx (talk • contribs) 05:43, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , the first source you added is not reliable--it's a store and blog. The second source does appear to be reliable, since it's from a newspaper, but the article is about the Lal Kitab, not about Vashist, so it does not help you show that he is notable. In your awards sections, your links just go to the pages of the organizations, not webpages that say that the IBB award was given to Vashist. You also added this link which so far is your best source by far, even though it does not discuss Vashist very much. Try to find a couple more sources like this one, where a credible source talks about him and explains why he is important. Nole  (chat·edits) 16:49, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Nolelover, vashist jyotish sansthan is a place, so I have just edied and added a google search link which points to the place, Lal Kitab is a branch of Astrology and so I think it needs its own explanatory link (sorry if I am wrong, please correct me then). Same goes with the link to Vedic astrology. I wasn't able to connect the other awards with GD Vasisht because they are from either facebook or his blogs, so I removed all others except IBB awards and got a more sensible link for the same. Given my best till now, kindly have a look and approve. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunkx (talk • contribs) 04:35, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Nolelover, I have added a source in external links and gave a new image for his infobox. Hope things are fine now. Kindly go through all my changes and approve. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunkx (talk • contribs) 08:08, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , it looks like an admin deleted your submission because it still was entirely just promotional material without adequate sourcing. Nole  (chat·edits) 21:41, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Nolelover, yeah, it seems someone has deleted my content. I wasn't promoting anything but was just writing about a person and his work since his works influenced the mass. However, I am disheartened someone just deleted without even knowing what it is. Anyways, thanks for your time. I'm not going to contribute any more to Wikipedia. Thanks for your reviews. Bye! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunkx (talk • contribs) 08:59, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

10:41:50, 20 June 2019 review of submission by Juanestebanp94
I made a revision of the whole text to made it more clear, also i reviewed the references and literature to make them more usaful. Also I went to their webpage and took the logos of the different products to add them to the section of pruducts to make the article more appealing. Finally i changed and added some data to the infobox. Hope is enough to make it acceptable. I'm making this article because I found that one of the products has a wikipedia article (Aimsun Live) but the rest of them and the developer don't have anything, so I felt kinda confused. If I get this one accepted, I would be happy to make the article for the rest of the products. Thanks. Juanestebanp94 (talk) 10:41, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * pending paid editing disclosure, see User talk:Juanestebanp94. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:28, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

11:39:43, 20 June 2019 review of draft by RomcherChk
RomcherChk (talk) 11:39, 20 June 2019 (UTC) Hi, I'd like to improve my article by providing more (reliable) reference sources. I find it rather difficult, though, as it's a general article about an EU institution. I've provided 2 sources already plus 2 reference web-sites. Any ideas how to improve my article even more? This is my first article, so any tips are much appreciated. Of course, I went through an article on referencing in Wikipedia and some others, but I am still struggling with getting my article approved. Thanks.--RomcherChk (talk) 11:39, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, right now your problem is that none of your sources are independent--they all come from EU or Ukrainian government websites. Wikipedia requires notability to be shown through third-party reliable sources that discuss the subject of the article, so has the advisory mission been discussed in any news articles or the like? Without those, it will likely be deleted. If none of these sources exist, perhaps some of the content could be put onto a page like Ukraine–European Union relations? Nolelover (talk) 14:45, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi ,Thanks for the explanation. I've inserted a couple of references to online sources other than EU. I'd appreciate if you took a look at them and let me know what you think. P.S. And thanks for the tip with Ukraine - EU relations page! EUAM Ukraine should be mentioned there, too. Thanks!--RomcherChk (talk) 11:48, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , so for the new sources, the Gazette piece is the kind of thing you want, yes. To a lesser extent, the kyivpost article is a good reference for the part of the article that it is used in, but might not be the strongest source in demonstrating the notability of the EUAM as a whole, if that makes sense. That article is obviously more about Kestutis then it is about the EUAM, and you want your best sources to fully discuss the subject of the article in significant detail. Along those lines, the reliefweb piece only mentions the EUAM in passing. Right now I still think you're right on the line, but if you were able to find another source (usually we say to novice editors that the magic number is three good sources) along the lines of the gazette piece then I would be comfortable accepting the article. If not, you absolutely have enough to write a section for the EU-Ukraine relations article. Nole  (chat·edits) 16:31, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I've found some more links that, I believe, qualify for a decent reference. Please let me know what you think. Please also note that there are many more dedicated articles about EUAM Ukraine in Ukrainian (I've included one video footage produced by the Ukrainian service of Deutsche Welle). Appreciate your feedback and please do let me know if I could improve my article even more. Thanks.--RomcherChk (talk) 13:14, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , you absolutely can add sources in other languages. Obviously the same constraints apply (add Ukrainian news articles, not Ukrainian blogs etc) but you definitely can add those sorts of sources. Google translate and the like have made some level of double-checking online sources very easy. Would you like to add some of those, or pull them up here so I can double check? Nole  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 14:13, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

, I've added many more web-articles in Ukrainian - please see reference list to the article. If you believe this is good enough for the article to be cleared for publication, please let me know, so that I could re-submit it. Thanks for your tips and assistance!--RomcherChk (talk) 06:40, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , I think you're good to go! Nole  (<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>·<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>) 06:55, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

, Awesome! Thanks a million!--RomcherChk (talk) 08:13, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

11:47:24, 20 June 2019 review of submission by Manishsinghon
Manishsinghon (talk) 11:47, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Team,

Ennscloset.com is a leading make up barnd in india. Its been used by so many celebs and notable person in India. Please check the instagram page or Google it. Its an profitable company as well. This is faetured in so many magazines and newspaper as well..Please check the resource part...Kindly publish it... Nosebagbear (talk) 20:12, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * - Instagram isn't either reliable or a secondary source, and just a high number of google hits doesn't clearly indicate anything. The current issue is that the draft's sources are either from a publication that isn't reliable or isn't independent (the publication or an author has a vested interest in pushing the product - this reasoning also rules out most interviews). There are a couple of exceptions but they don't talk about the company itself for more than a few lines. Companies have higher notability requirements than some other articles, so it needs to be clearly demonstrated Nosebagbear (talk) 20:12, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

15:31:06, 20 June 2019 review of draft by CP842b
CP842b (talk) 15:31, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

I wish to change the name of the article from "G3 Canada" to "G3 Canada Limited" - please advise the best way to do that.


 * Hi, please don't do that, it's counter to our standard for company article titles. Such suffixes are only used to resolve conflicting titles, and only rarely at that. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:46, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

16:50:42, 20 June 2019 review of draft by Michaelparkerrealkast
I have edited the draft per instructions by Robert McClendon. However this is my first time to create a wiki page and I am not sure if the draft has been resubmitted correctly with new edits. Is there a way I can find out that new edits and draft are submitted?

Thank you.

Michaelparkerrealkast (talk) 16:50, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi . The large yellow box at the top of the draft tells us that the draft has been resubmitted and is in the pool to be reviewed. With the current backlog you can expect to hear back within about four months. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:37, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

21:58:31, 20 June 2019 review of submission by 61.28.135.180
I wanna make a wikipedia for my starting youtube channel about vlogging 61.28.135.180 (talk) 21:58, 20 June 2019 (UTC)


 * - Wikipedia doesn't exist to help market you, nor does it talk about "up and coming" ideas, products or shows - as an encyclopedia it summarises topics already covered in secondary topics. If your youtube video takes off, media covers it and someone else decides to write about it, that's fantastic, but otherwise it's not suitable I'm afraid. Nosebagbear (talk) 22:38, 20 June 2019 (UTC)