Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2019 March 7

= March 7 =

00:05:46, 7 March 2019 review of submission by Yungzizope
Yungzizope (talk) 00:05, 7 March 2019 (UTC) why is my article named Yungziz not accepted
 * Hi . Draft:Yungziz has been declined for the reasons explained in the big pink box at the top of the draft, and in the comment the reviewer left below it (both also appear on your talk page within a large mustard yellow box). --Worldbruce (talk) 02:04, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Self-written article by rapper, who has been declined and notified multiple times for multiple article recreations under both his stage and real name. TechnoTalk (talk) 21:06, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

00:06:06, 7 March 2019 review of draft by HHHOSMER
I have many external links, but need help getting them into the external link area. Same for references and a photo. I will take the Adventure tutorial soon. HHHOSMER (talk) 00:06, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi . I suggest that you forget about photos and external links for now. The presence or absence of photos will have no effect on whether or not the draft is accepted. Articles do not require any external links.


 * Concentrate on references. "Personal conversation, 1979" is not an acceptable source. Unlike other types of writing, on Wikipedia all references must be published. The remaining four citations do not adequately describe the sources you're citing. I strongly recommend that you use templates within the ref tags, such as cite book, cite news, cite web, etc. By structuring the bibliographic data, they help you make sure you've given readers everything they need to find the source for themselves. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:58, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

06:06:59, 7 March 2019 review of submission by LRamachandran (International Photographer)
Why my wikipedia page got declined. Can you pls suggest in this regard LRamachandran (International Photographer) (talk) 06:06, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Zero sources on a BLP. Answered on draft and requested a username block, as it needs to be changed before we carry on. Legacypac (talk) 06:11, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

The Draft:Akash_Ambani is completely eligible to be at Article Space of Wikipedia as its completely based on the reliable sources. everyone can find the 100s of sources from Google. It was created earlier without sources. Akash Ambani is now completely Notable Person by his Work, Family, And Media Coverages.

Radadiyageet (talk) 08:22, 7 March 2019 (UTC)


 * - we are an encyclopedia. We exist for the benefit of our readers - and so we don't set them the obligation of hunting down sources to see if there reliable support. Article creators are obligated to find the sources. Nosebagbear (talk) 14:57, 8 March 2019 (UTC)


 * - Well said dear, But each and everything are based on Reliable Source, That is only The Draft:Akash_Ambani is completely eligible to be at Article Space of Wikipedia.

09:21:43, 7 March 2019 review of submission by MLKinsella
Hey. I'm currently writing the draft:buyagift page and looking for some feedback. Is there anything you'd suggest to make the article better? Is the layout good, or does it need to be broken down more? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks.MLKinsella (talk) 09:21, 7 March 2019 (UTC) MLKinsella (talk) 09:21, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I remember helping delete that advertisement before. Please don't post it again. It's been tagged for deletion again by another reviewer. Legacypac (talk) 09:32, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Request on 16:23:49, 7 March 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Scotteggert
An article that was drafted, one of my first Wiki submissions was tagged as "speedily deleted". The subject was the employer of a good friend who is a prominent African American entrepreneur. The article was drafted in a neutral third person voice without superlatives. I included links to several other articles and a single citation. I was going to proceed with writing about some personnel and a couple of businesses he owns that would reference him.

I would appreciate some pointers about how to edit this to Wiki standards. I drafted a similar article about six years ago under very similar circumstance, and as another user, which remains mostly intact today.

Scotteggert (talk) 16:23, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , I can't see the deleted page, I am pinging, the deleting admin, for input.   SITH   (talk)   23:21, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Is there a reason you are using a brand new profile, rather than the original account which you used to create the last article? Do you not remember your old user name? The reason I ask it that it is discouraged for editors to have multiple profiles. There's more info here WP:SOCK and here Clean start. TechnoTalk (talk) 21:16, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

16:50:24, 7 March 2019 review of draft by MachieMadden
I am not related to James C. Madden. The fact that we share the last name is a coincidence. However, I am employed by the PR firm that represents his company. Can you tell me if, and where, I need to disclose this? Thanks! MachieMadden (talk) 16:50, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , if money is involved, you need to see WP:COIPAYDISCLOSE and follow the instructions there. If no money is involved, putting  on your userpage will suffice.  Thanks,   SITH   (talk)   23:18, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Request on 19:09:18, 7 March 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by 24.136.10.218
I am working on a biography of Stefanie Minatee for Wikipedia. The first time the article was declined, I was asked to add more citations. I have done that. Today it was declined again; here is the message I received this time around:

Please list the WP:THREE sources that would enable this person to meet notability. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:36, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

In my list of sources, I have included one book not associated with the subject (The Gospel Truth), an online resource not associated with me (GOSPELflava), though my Journal of Gospel Music has been cited on Wikipedia by others in the past, a newspaper (Union News Daily), and two online news sources (Nj.com and northjersey.com). Are none of these sources enough to determine notability?

The other question is, where do I list the WP:THREE sources in the body of the article, and are any of the references cited considered one of these three sources? If not, do the three sources need to be paper-based?

I apologize for my confusion – I have seen Wikipedia articles with only three references get published and I have provided more than 20 and can’t seem to get through the system!

Best regards, Bob Marovich

24.136.10.218 (talk) 19:09, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * General comments. Use the Draft talkpage to list your best sources. We have several thousand Draft pages waiting so wading through 20+ sources is not a good use of time when the WP:N is not obvious. Quality of sources, not quantity is important. Sources do NOT need to be paper, and online sources are much easier for us to check. I'll look at the page for you now. Legacypac (talk) 19:31, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

19:18:56, 7 March 2019 review of draft by Scott8905
Our content was reviewed and denied. So I had a question about how we can get our specific content up as a separate article. Our office, the Executive Office for U.S. Attorneys, is mentioned on the United States Attorney Wikipedia page, but there are significant differences between the US Attorneys (USA) office and the Executive Office for US Attorneys (EOUSA). It was recommended that we add our content to the EOUSA section of the United States Attorney page. I would submit that adding this content would cause confusion to readers since US Attorneys and EOUSA have different responsibilities and perform different roles withing the Department of Justice. EOUSA provides support with respect to policy and guidance to all 94 US Attorneys' offices including overseeing their budget, but EOUSA does not make decisions affecting civil or criminal cases. US attorneys are the chief Federal law enforcement officers in their district. They lead investigations and direct the prosecution of criminal and civil cases on behalf of the Federal government. The Director of EOUSA oversees the evaluation of those offices, supervising the operation of the Office of Legal Education, the Attorney General’s Advocacy Institute and the Legal Education Institute and much more as our submission provides. Thirdly, US Attorneys are appointed by the President of the United States and have to go through the Senate confirmation process, while the Director of EOUSA is selected by the Attorney General.

Though I would agree that referencing EOUSA on the US Attorneys Wikipedia page would provide the reader a basic understanding of who US Attorneys work with regarding Department of Justice policy and guidance. I would reiterate that having all the information about EOUSA on the US Attorneys Wikipedia page may cause confusion to the readers since the responsibilities and leadership roles differ greatly. To have a separate EOUSA page linked to the content on the US Attorneys and the Department of Justice’s Wikipedia pages would provide readers a separate resource focused specifically on the function and responsibilities of EOUSA and avoid confusion with the duties of the US Attorneys.

Lastly, other Federal agencies have pages devoted to specific offices, bureaus and divisions. Please see examples under the following:

1.	United States Department of Justice under Offices - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Justice#Offices 2.	United States Department of State under Organization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_State#Organization show a number of different offices/bureaus with their own pages. 3.	United States Department of Agriculture under Organization, budget, and tasks - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Agriculture#Organization,_budget_and_tasks 4.	United States Department of the Interior under Operating Units - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_the_Interior#Operating_units

These are just some examples of pages that reference other offices who have their own dedicated page.

Should I resubmit for someone to review? Or, what would be the next steps to get a separate posted. Previous reviewers did not have an issue with the being a separate article. They provided other input with respect to adding more specific references about the content pulled directly from Justice.gov's website.

Any direction and guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Scott8905 (talk) 19:18, 7 March 2019 (UTC)Scott Armstrong-Cezar (employee of the US Dept. of Justice)

Scott8905 (talk) 19:18, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I was the one who suggested that it belongs on the other page but if a seperate page explains the difference between the titles that is fine. If you include material from gov published sources that is fine and copyright free but be sure to very clearly label the source and comment on ten talkpage. Executive Office for United States Attorneys already exists as a title but it is currently a redirect. You can just replace the redirect with the new article. You don't need us. Clink the link to the Executive Office page, scroll to the top, and click the redirected from link. Then paste over the # REDIRECT. Thanks for helping improve the coverage on Wikipedia of the DOJ. Legacypac (talk) 19:24, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

20:42:14, 7 March 2019 review of draft by BlazeJimX
Companies such as Microsoft and Google have 'Company' above their wikipedia logo. How do i do the same for companies i write about?

BlazeJimX (talk) 20:42, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * It is an infobox. Responded on the draft. You have much bigger problems in your effort to promote your company - like no good sources. Legacypac (talk) 20:55, 7 March 2019 (UTC)