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= May 11 =

02:47:28, 11 May 2019 review of draft by Playlikeastar
I got feedback for this page as (Please flesh out the filmography table into a career biography using prose, at present this is a Who's Who entry with a filmography table.) So what changes is reviewer requesting?. I have referred similar kind of pages how they have made it, for example, please refer Vasishta N. Simha. I have provided all possible details Please help me to improve this page Playlikeastar (talk) 02:47, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

10:39:17, 11 May 2019 review of draft by Nandanikri
Nandanikri (talk) 10:39, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Can we at times check an article from humanity angle and get it verified by human rather than bots. If an NGO or its initiatives are helping people - can't we have a page for them such that more people can know about NGO's initiatives and gets benefited from that. As per current rule we always looks for recognitions of an organisation before publishing any article about them on wikipedia but the real recognition comes from the people who are being served and getting benefited from such NGOs. So, shouldn't we develop a mechanism whereas NGOs who are not yet recognised via an article on newspaper but on ground they are serving actively can also be given a place on wikipedia ?


 * - no draft is reviewed by a bot - "Captain Medusa" reviewed yours (click the blue name at the bottom-left of the red box to go to his user page.


 * Unfortunately, were we to take an approach similar to the one you suggest, two main problems would crop up:


 * 1) We'd have no reliable secondary sources to judge the content of the articles from. We are an encyclopedia - individuals come to us to try and find information that's as reliable as we can get it. Deliberately dropping that requirement, even for good motives, would be counter-productive to our core purpose


 * 2) Behind the scenes, Wikipedia spends an enormous amount of effort discussing what is legitimate to keep in/delete. And that's with a relatively objective (though lengthy) set of guidelines. This method would be a very subjective judgement on social benefit - making agreement very hard to come to. We'd also have arguments for "why not helpful but un-covered individuals" etc - it would be impossible to handle. Nosebagbear (talk) 17:29, 12 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Thus Wikipedia is not for "spreading the word" as it were - the best route to take on that is pushing some media to cover the NGO and generate the basis for sources. Nosebagbear (talk) 17:29, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

17:49:49, 11 May 2019 review of draft by Irenemoresa
My submission "Chelo Alvarez-Stehle-2 has not yet been approved. Will it help if I shortened it?

Irenemoresa (talk) 17:49, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi . Encyclopedias are not long lists of primary sources, they summarize in prose what secondary sources say. So large parts of the draft would be removed if it were accepted for publication. Shortening it yourself may speed review and increase the odds of acceptance. I've commented on the draft with regard to the first areas to target for shortening. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:27, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Request on 20:07:42, 11 May 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Muhammad Nabeel Shafqat

 * This appears to be either a test edit or, in any case, makes no particular claim to notability. Nosebagbear (talk) 17:30, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Muhammad Nabeel Shafqat (talk) 20:07, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

22:56:57, 11 May 2019 review of submission by KiddCartelSA
I need to publish this page about Kidd Cartel but unfortunately it’s not been published due to my references. Where can I get a proper reference other than Facebook ? KiddCartelSA (talk) 22:56, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

23:01:29, 11 May 2019 review of submission by Lucky 0310
Lucky 0310 (talk) 23:01, 11 May 2019 (UTC) Why my article is declined ?
 * Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. One of the core principles of Wikipedia is that article subjects should have received significant coverage in reliable sources before an article is written about them. The draft you submitted did not cite any reliable sources and I could not find any reliable sources that discuss Sourav Konar, other than a single passing mention from a decade ago. I suggest that you play the Wikipedia Adventure or read through the tutorial before you write any other articles. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 23:20, 11 May 2019 (UTC)