Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2019 May 8

= May 8 =

00:58:16, 8 May 2019 review of draft by LorriBrown
LorriBrown (talk) 00:58, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

I wanted to inquire if I can remove the submission request for this draft and then resubmit it? Thank you!LorriBrown (talk) 00:58, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi . The draft was submitted in this edit by IP 84.46.52.110. You may undo that edit and submit the draft again later. --Worldbruce (talk) 03:30, 8 May 2019 (UTC)


 * , Can I simply click on the undo link that you provided?  I tried to locate the specific edit in the history but it is difficult for me to see if when that edit was done that there were not other changes made as well.  Thank you! LorriBrown (talk) 18:02, 8 May 2019 (UTC)


 * There are two links in my post above. The second explains what an undo or revert is, and when to do it. The first is a link to the edit you want to reverse. It will take you to a diff page. Near the top right of that page will be an (undo) link that you can use to undo the edit.


 * For future reference, one of the most useful tools in the page history is "Find addition/removal", which can help you find a particular revision. Of course you have to know what you're looking for, which probably isn't the case here - if you knew the code in question you could have simply edited the current version and removed it. --Worldbruce (talk) 03:08, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

01:41:18, 8 May 2019 review of draft by Cmhatten
How can I submit my article to be reviewed as a company? Cmhatten (talk) 01:41, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi The topic has no chance of being accepted as an article, because the company is not notable. --Worldbruce (talk) 03:55, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

11:16:58, 8 May 2019 review of submission by Wikiwel
Recent BBC Media Centre citations documenting Tris Penna's work as a notable music consultant and broadcaster Wikiwel (talk) 11:16, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi . Penna has done a bunch of stuff, and is known in certain music production circles and in the British LGBT community. But the draft doesn't cite, and I can't find, any independent, in-depth, secondary sources about him. Perhaps you can find such sources offline. Without them, he is not notable, and the draft has no hope of being accepted. --Worldbruce (talk) 04:31, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks Worldbruce; glad there is wikipedian with recognition Penna's professional/campaign work.'Time Out' paper feature by Penna on history of UK LGBT publications published few years back (online link discontinued) although if you are unable to find more in-depth, secondary sources; this article submission can rest for nowWikiwel (talk) 13:47, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

User:Musa lawi mafolo/sandnox
because i have no experience in that section on edition --Musa lawi mafolo (talk) 13:54, 8 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Tagged for speedy deletion as blatant spam (G11). Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:12, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

15:11:59, 8 May 2019 review of submission by Wikiwel
Tris Penna notability as broadcaster and music consultant documented in 2019 citations. Request latest May 2 2019 draft submissionWikiwel (talk) 15:11, 8 May 2019 (UTC) Wikiwel (talk) 15:11, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

16:11:38, 8 May 2019 review of draft by DelicateAloe
I created a template for a translation of an article which already exists in Italian and I asked for an English translation but apparently I did it wrong. Can someone help me? Thanks.

DelicateAloe (talk) 16:11, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi . I corrected the Expand Italian template for you. WP:TRANSLATETOHERE envisions the expand template being placed on a stub article, not a draft. But to get the draft published as a stub through Articles for Creation will require showing that the subject is notable, something for which three independent, reliable sources containing significant coverage are usually recommended. (It is not enough that it exists on the Italian Wikipedia, as each language version operates according to its own policies and guidelines, set by those who edit there, so a topic may be suitable for the Italian version but not the English one, or vice versa.) The Italian version cites a single source. I wouldn't recommend citing it for the English version unless you can obtain it and read it, neither of which may be possible. So it may be difficult to advance this draft. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:17, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I would like to see this page translated because this villa is located in a town where a lot of Americans come as tourists since their ancestors emigrated from Cuggiono to the USA. I would like for them to be able to read a page in their mother tongue. --DelicateAloe (talk) 07:15, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

17:27:48, 8 May 2019 review of submission by RobinEMiller
I made sure the photos were removed that the moderators were having problems confirming ownership on, as well as added more 3rd party citations and sources. RobinEMiller (talk) 17:27, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

18:17:38, 8 May 2019 review of submission by ADSTucson
ADSTucson (talk) 18:17, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi there, what is further needed for the article to be rereviewed? We have some photos as well as reference links but I'm not sure how to insert them into the actual article. When I try to upload photos, they are declined. How should I fix?

Thank you

ADSTucson (talk) 18:17, 8 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello again . Please clarify what you mean by "we". The policy on Wikipedia is "one user—one account". Usernames should not be shared by multiple individuals.
 * Rejection is meant to be final, to convey that the subject is not notable (not suitable for inclusion), so no amount of editing will "fix" the draft and make it acceptable. You may wish to consider alternative outlets, with different inclusion criteria, for what you've written. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:13, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

20:46:25, 8 May 2019 review of submission by Onomatowoo
Onomatowoo (talk) 20:46, 8 May 2019 (UTC)


 * - what are you asking about? - your last edit on your declined draft looks to have been in January so I want to clarify before answering something you weren't wanting to ask Nosebagbear (talk) 19:19, 9 May 2019 (UTC)


 * - yes, I am talking about the revision of Draft:Eggersmann_K%C3%BCchen that was declined in January. I am just now finding time to return to it and even being away from it for months, I have no fresh ideas how to remove whatever is not wikipedia like. I am at a loss as each sentence is supported by one or more citations. I am hoping for some advice or insight on what I am missing regarding creation of an appropriate entry for eggersmann. Onomatowoo (talk) 14:01, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

23:03:11, 8 May 2019 review of draft by JoelDougal: Draft Environment lost map's 2 zoom controls
JoelDougal (talk) 23:03, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Question for Articles for Creation (AfC) Hep Desk:

While in Wikipedia Sandbox (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox), the "Luna Parc" new article's map zoom controls were much better than map now shows in Wikipedia Draft environment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Luna_Parc).

Exact same source code used in both environments. You can copy the source code from Draft environment into Sandbox environment to see the better map zoom controls rendered in Sandbox environment.

Specifically, the Draft Environment lost the 2 control buttons ("+" and "-") that should display in top left quadrant of the "mapframe template"-generated Kartographer Java map sourced from OSM data:

+ -

Also, the Draft environment does not allow user's cursor to drag map within frame, whereas in Sandbox environment user could. That is a 2nd regression, both experienced by just moving code from Wikipedia Sandbox to Draft.

How do I get the Draft environment Luna Parc article's map to display the 2 lost map zoom controls, and allow drag of map within frame?

Thanks,

Joel JoelDougal (talk) 23:03, 8 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi . An interesting anomaly, but this forum isn't the best place to explore it. Known maps bugs are listed on Phabricator here. In the header of Village pump (technical) are links describing how to report new bugs. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:40, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

23:22:46, 8 May 2019 review of submission by Sobernoodle
Hi there, I am attempting to add a page to Wikipedia regarding sobering centers. I put together a pretty detailed page, with references from about 15 different published sources. However, it was rejected for "reading like an advertisement".

Trying to figure out what that means - as there is nothing for sale on the site. Sobering centers themselves do not even bill or charge clients, so no money changing hands. The text did not feature a particular person or sobering center.

Clarification would be fantastic. Because it was deemed inappropriate it was "speedily deleted" so I cannot even recover at this stage. For reference, it was reviewed by Captain Medusa. I would like to get a page on sobering centers back up there, as "drunk tank" is the only thing close - and it is very very old information that is not a sobering center.

Thank you! Shannon Sobernoodle (talk) 23:22, 8 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Greetings. Since you article in your sandbox has been deleted, we could not view the deleted article and comment on your request. You could retrieve the deleted article, WP:REFUND, by asking the admin Anthony Appleyard - see here and once you have done that, come back here and link the article for us to comment., since you nominated the article to be deleted, you might know the promotional issue in the article and might want to comment. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:23, 9 May 2019 (UTC)


 * The word "advertisement" in the boilerplate text fits poorly with some topics. Don't get hung up on the word, but study what it is linked to. Content must not be promotional. If you have an opinion on whether sobering centers are a good thing, you may find it difficult to keep that from creeping into what you write. Wikipedia mustn't take a position on them. It can't even take a position on whether being sober or not is a good thing, see WP:WIKIVOICE. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:36, 9 May 2019 (UTC)