Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2019 October 30

= October 30 =

06:49:07, 30 October 2019 review of draft by Believers Care Society
Believers Care Society (talk) 06:49, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
 * User has been blocked Captain Eek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 07:34, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

08:49:00, 30 October 2019 review of draft by BFP1
I would like help with tidying up the presentation of the External links reference. BFP1 (talk) 08:49, 30 October 2019 (UTC)BFP1

BFP1 (talk) 08:49, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
 * , ✅. The external link has to be all on one line for the formatting to work.  Oxon Alex    - talk  09:17, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

09:16:15, 30 October 2019 review of submission by Neaifefe
Hi! I have added external links and references, as well as information of awards, certificates, products, and services. Thank you! Neaifefe (talk) 09:16, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
 * , The issue here is how the article is written. The text is not at all encyclopedic. Wikipedia presents subjects neutrally, weighing positive and negative attributes, and using non-charged wording. You seem to have literally just copied the company's own bio from their promotional website. Not only is that a big no-no because it violates copyright law, it also means that the text is just an ad. Wikipedia is not an ad platform. Captain Eek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 07:33, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

13:38:24, 30 October 2019 review of submission by 97.107.223.116
97.107.223.116 (talk) 13:38, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

I just want this article to be published, I find many of the criticisms given here do not apply to many other articles I see. This is a non-controversial topic about a semi-famous figure who has had a decent amount of media attention, and this Wikipedia page is for public record.

Past edits have greatly modified the language to be more objective and journalistic.

I think it is a bit unfair for some Wikipedia editors to claim that some of the sources used for this article are not as professional as they claim the standards to be; it is unfair for people to privilege some media sources and to disparage others.

Please, if there is anything actionable I must do to get this article approved, I will do it, but you cannot fairly tell me, vaguely, that someone somewhere there doesn't feel that these sources are sufficient enough.

Thank you.
 * You have not told us what the draft is? Theroadislong (talk) 13:54, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
 * pinging IP in case they're still attached to it Nosebagbear (talk) 19:27, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

14:58:53, 30 October 2019 review of draft by Mritch999
How do I center embedded photos? They’re all appearing on the far right of my article.

Mritch999 (talk) 14:58, 30 October 2019 (UTC)


 * You can add a "center" attribute to the File link. I've done this for your first photo as a demonstration.  That being said, I'd recommend NOT doing this.  Trying to do fancy things with layout is usually a losing game.  Your article is going to be viewed in many different formats; on web browsers, in many different sized windows, with people using alternate skins or custom CSS rules, on mobile devices with small screens, using alternative applications like the Wikipedia mobile app, using screen readers by blind people, etc.  Just going with the default layout is usually the best strategy.  -- RoySmith (talk) 15:37, 30 October 2019 (UTC)


 * PS, I've moved your sandbox to Draft:John Manley Barnett, which is where AfC submissions generally live. You can continue to work on it there.  I did notice that you've used a lot of photos that look like they were copied out of newspapers and other sources, without obtaining the required copyright permission.  I think you're going to have trouble there.  Please see Commons:Commons:Licensing for more details.  -- RoySmith (talk) 15:43, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

21:34:25, 30 October 2019 review of draft by Samanthaamia
Hello, I have made the changed suggested and my article is still being declined. I know this artist, the one I am writing about, personally and have the permission to post anything including rights to photos and etc. He is a known artist, music engineer, producer and singer/songwriter in the Latin music industry. I would really like to have this page approved and set as an ARTICE under the name of JHONI THE VOICE written by me SAMANTHA MIA (SAMANTHAAMIA) Thank you in advance.

Samantha Mia 21:34, 30 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi . Unlike Facebook, blogs, or personal websites, Wikipedia is not a place to write about anything and everything. The community of editors decide by consensus which topics to accept. As one of those editors, you can suggest a subject and have a voice in the decision, but you need to convince others that the topic is notable (meets Wikipedia's inclusion criteria). No one is entitled to have an article published here just because they want one.


 * The most fundamental gauge of notability is significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable, secondary sources. Draft:Jhoni The Voice cites no independent sources, so it will not be published. If any existing articles are as poorly sourced, they should be improved, or if that is not possible, deleted. The reviewer couldn't find any appropriate sources for the draft, so they rejected it to let you know that you shouldn't waste any more time on it. If you add acceptable sources to the draft (don't start a second draft under another name, just keep editing the one that was rejected), you should be able to persuade some reviewer to re-evaluate it. WikiProject Albums/Sources lists sources that Wikipedians' have found useful in writing about musicians. --Worldbruce (talk) 00:56, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

22:32:20, 30 October 2019 review of submission by Wei4Green
I have found 10 reliable secondary sources for the draft. I'm still working on this draft, but there isn't enough Wikipedians to work on the article. I recently contacted #TeamTrees team for their permission to upload their logos and designs to Wikimedia Commons, so this draft still has more room to be expanded.

I created Team Trees and TeamTrees as redirects on 2019-10-25 before this draft was created by User:Ccmee6464 on 2019-10-26. If this draft was approved, will the draft merge with Team Trees or TeamTrees with its edit history and page statistics? I'm not sure if the draft should be moved to Draft:TeamTrees for now because #TeamTrees (# sign can't be added in the title name because of technical restrictions) is the WP:COMMONNAME in my opinion. —Wei4 Green • #TeamTrees🌲 22:32, 30 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi . If you believe you've added enough coverage in independent, reliable, secondary sources that the reason the draft was rejected no longer applies, you may resubmit it by adding  to the top of it. If it is accepted, its edit history will be preserved. The accepting reviewer will decide on the most appropriate name and will, if necessary, delete a redirect to make way for moving the draft. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:07, 31 October 2019 (UTC)


 * So you mean the edit history and page statistics will be merged onto Team Trees if accepted? Is it OK if the draft is still a stub? —Wei4 Green • #TeamTrees🌲 01:21, 31 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Drafts are accepted regardless of quality assessment; many are accepted as stubs. If the accepting reviewer decides the correct name is Team Trees, they will delete Team Trees (the redirect), then move the draft to Team Trees. All of the properties of a page (history, page statistics, talk, etc.) travel with it as its name changes, its namespace changes, or as it is deleted. It isn't a merge. --Worldbruce (talk) 02:47, 31 October 2019 (UTC)