Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2019 September 19

= September 19 =

01:47:11, 19 September 2019 review of submission by MikeyMikeyMike
MikeyMikeyMike (talk) 01:47, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi,

I was provided this reason why the article I submitted wasn't approved:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability

Is it purely a judgement call if a topic is notable?

What tips can you provide in order for the article to be published?

If the topic isn't notable, which article should I incorporate my article into?


 * - notability is a general policy that applies to Wikipedia. There are specific guidelines for various topics. Companies and organisations use corporate notability.


 * If a draft/article is on the edge of notability it can be a judgement call, but a clearcut rejection that this received (and supported by me) is fully in line with the rules.


 * Firstly, you've used external links, whereas references should be one of the various methods you can see at referencing for beginners


 * I did however look at all of them. And all the sources/links failed on 1 of the 4 requirements for any source designed to show notability: reliable (generally reliable publication with editorial control); independent (no reason to be biased, such as an involved writer, or interviews); significant coverage about Engin itself (roughly 10+ lines that aren't quotes); secondary (newspapers, books etc). The corporate notability link above has a good explanation of each.


 * I'm not sure there is enough sourcing available to be found to demonstrate corporate notability Nosebagbear (talk) 08:57, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Request on 03:01:02, 19 September 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Ada Wan
I wrote an article on Wikipedia and it got rejected. The reason is because the article is not significant enough for inclusion on wikipedia. However, Wikipedia is a platform for many topics and articles, there will always be articles that will not be significant or important, if my article get rejected because it is not significant to the person who reject it, then I think its sort of unreasonable to do. Ada Wan (talk) 03:01, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * pending paid editing disclosure, see User talk:Ada Wan. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:13, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your declaration. Most businesses, including APM Monaco, are not notable (not suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia). You may find WP:BFAQ informative. --Worldbruce (talk) 12:21, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

05:50:21, 19 September 2019 review of submission by LoLo0732
I request to edit draft:Johann_Brieger since he is a notable Austrian diplomat. The creator of the original topic did not offer major citations of media coverage besides primary sources and a shortened CV. Nevertheless, there is more than enough international media coverage that justifies an English wikipedia article.

Therefore, I want to reopen the article and add further sources, for example - by the government of Mauritius about Dr. Briegers recent visit: http://m.govmu.org/English/News/pages/NewsDetails.aspx?ItemId=5893 - by an independent Mauritius newspaper about Dr. Briegers recent visit: http://www.mauriceactu.mu/2019/07/30/maurice-et-lautriche-renforcent-leurs-relations-bilaterales/ - an article by The Diplomatic Society about one of his hosted events: http://www.thediplomaticsociety.co.za/archive/archive/2568-austrian-leadership-programs-alps - an article by the South African Development Community: https://www.sadc.int/news-events/news/sadc-and-austria-agree-areas-collaboration/ - an article by greentech.at: https://www.greentech.at/en/largest-solar-thermal-systems-south-of-the-sahara/

Thank you & best regards

LoLo0732 (talk) 05:50, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

06:10:48, 19 September 2019 review of submission by 182.72.99.58
This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. what kind of citation needed

182.72.99.58 (talk) 06:10, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

10:43:33, 19 September 2019 review of submission by Juanestebanp94
After the notice of rejection of the contribution, I did a complete review of the content, structure and references. It pretends to tell what is the history and contributions of software to the world.

I am asking for a revision in order to get the necessary approval to appear on Wikipedia, thank you.

Juanestebanp94 (talk) 10:43, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * It appears to be blatant advertising. Theroadislong (talk) 11:01, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

17:48:43, 19 September 2019 review of draft by Oilisgood
We have a page for the Barjeel Art Foundation in the UAE and it has been denied publishing. I am trying to figure out what is wrong with the submission. The guidelines say to make sure it uses sources from multiple sources outside of the foundation. It appears we have and I do not know what is wrong on this front. Some references to name a few in the page are: - The National - The Guardian - New York Times - Whitechapel Gallery - Myart Guides - MORI Art Museum - Sharjha Museums - Casa Arabe - NYU Abu Dhabi

I am also trying to figure out what the difference that delineates something being an advertisement and it being a wikipedia page. The page should contain information about the foundation and what they do. The page contains facts and no opinions. So, I am unsure what the issue is.

Is it structure? Should we break things up into more list and categories? I am really at a dead end on where to go from here. :(

Thanks for your time and consideration on this issue.

Oilisgood (talk) 17:48, 19 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi . Please clarify what you mean by "we". Do you have a connection to the foundation that you have not disclosed? --Worldbruce (talk) 19:25, 19 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi . My connection to the foundation is that I took a class from Sultan Al-Qassim a few years ago at NYU and I do see him at events in the art world from time to time. But, I do not work with nor collaborate with him. I meant the we in the sense of people like me who are passionate about Modern Arab Art. (I'm a Cloud DevOps Manager at my day job) I am unsure how this content is going to get populated and out there if not by people who carry interest in the subject matter at hand. I would not want all of my Modern Arab Art information to come from someone who has zero connection to the Arab Art world. I can understand your concern about me being paid to do this. But, I promise you it strictly comes from a passion in the field. And the Barjeel is a very important piece of the puzzle that is the Arab Art World in general. It is a central hub for many people who navigate this area of the art world. I'd like to see it have a page so that it can be referenced when linking up different artists and their work. No compensation, no kickbacks. Just passion and interest. I don't know how else to say it.