Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 April 10

= April 10 =

Request on 00:13:06, 10 April 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Fireinmyheart
My article got declined because they do not show significant coverage. I have added two external references and it is also connected to the article which is already present in wikipedia.

Fireinmyheart (talk) 00:13, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , Two sources is not sufficient, nor is the article sufficiently cited inline. You need more sources. It also reads like a piece of advertising. For example, "exciting" is not a formal encyclopedic descriptor. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 02:17, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

04:54:07, 10 April 2020 review of submission by Celebritychoosing
Celebritychoosing (talk) 04:54, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Sulfurboy (talk) 05:01, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , They seem to be an average set of individuals, like you or I. I was in a band in high school, but it doesn't have a Wikipedia page. Only subjects that have received reliable coverage in multiple sources (such as newspapers) are included. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 09:39, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Why?

05:48:23, 10 April 2020 review of draft by Geethmariya
We have to know how to write a proper content for my subject

Geethmariya (talk) 05:48, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , We? Who is we? CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 09:38, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

07:31:02, 10 April 2020 review of submission by Tsgroove
Tsgroove (talk) 07:31, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , You have not improved the draft despite repeated requests. It appears that the subject is not notable, and thus we cannot have an article about him. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 09:36, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Request on 08:32:13, 10 April 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Mr Tejal
Mr Tejal (talk) 08:32, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , Very few YouTubers qualify to have a Wikipedia article. You need better sources. Be careful, many Indian sources that seem reliable are not, reviewers are pretty exacting. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 09:37, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Request on 10:37:52, 10 April 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Vishakha2588
How to write the reference for the article?

Vishakha2588 (talk) 10:37, 10 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi . To demonstrate the correct referencing technique, I edited the "Early life and education" section. You can follow that example for other topics you may edit.
 * I strongly urge you not to continue working on Draft:Mohit Romesh Sharma, for the reasons I've explained on the draft. The draft has been declined again, this time by KylieTastic. If they hadn't declined it, I would have. The draft is a hopeless effort at this time, but Wikipedia has millions of other articles you could improve. See Community portal for how to help. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:06, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Request on 11:49:04, 10 April 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by GssBoot
GssBoot 11:49, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

15:18:22, 10 April 2020 review of submission by Invader2580
Hi, I wanted to know why the Article 'Radhakrishna Pillai' would soon be under speedy deletation. The article is about the Best selling Author Dr Radhakrishnan Pillai in India. A brief information is been provided with relevant citation and web links. Kindly help !

Invader2580 (talk) 15:18, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * You have not used the articles for creation process, instead you have created it straight into main space, your article has zero reliable sources so has correctly been tagged for deletion. Theroadislong (talk) 15:22, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

15:23:33, 10 April 2020 review of draft by Mgrodzins
In the Bibliography section, I have listed Titles and dates of published novels. I have more detailed bibliographic information for each work. Should it be included, and if so, how? Mgrodzins (talk) 15:23, 10 April 2020 (UTC)


 * , you have plenty of information for each source. In fact, for some, you have a bit too much. You don't need to include an image of the actual letter from commons. At this stage (i.e. to be accepted via AfC), your sources really just need enough information to uniquely identify them. The problem with the sources was the types of sources you are using. The majority of your sources should be from secondary sources. These secondary sources themselves should be reliable (i.e. have a fact checking process, so not any blog or manuscript), and independent of the subject (so none of their books). They should also mention the subject significantly (so not just trivial coverage), but that doesn't seem to be a problem for you so far. I should note that Wikipedia doesn't count as a reliable source as it's user generated content (no fact checking process), and so that circular referencing is avoided (A cites B and B cites A). Sam-2727 (talk) 03:26, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

I hope I'm in the right place to thank you. I'll get to work on cleaning this up as best I can.Mgrodzins (talk) 14:07, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Request on 16:24:00, 10 April 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Jshipley528
Hello I would like to get your recommendation on what types of specific references I should enter to have this article approved https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Spill_(book). Is the most important thing to have lots of ref links within the body that appear in the References section at the bottom of the article? Or is it more valuable to have more Templates cite web, cite news, cite book, cite journal references? I feel like there are enough references to this novel out there on the web; I just need to know what would count the most to getting it approved. The author, Les Standiford, has a wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Standiford, his own author page http://www.les-standiford.com/. Should I look at the references used in Standiford's Wikipedia article to see if I can find more on this novel Spill in them? Any feedback would be appreciated. I really liked this book and would love to have the article published!

Jshipley528 (talk) 16:24, 10 April 2020 (UTC)


 * (copy of answer from my talk page) Firstly it is more important to have a few very good references that lots, and yes it is always good to have them in the body of the article rather than just listed at the bottom so information can be verified WP:V more easily. See Help:Referencing for beginners for the key guide, note that you can use the same source in many places see the same reference used more than once section. Although using the cite templates helps people locate the sources, especially for bare urls to preserve extra information for if the url changes, but it's not essential. The most important thing here is all new articles on Wikipedia have to show they are notable subjects (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Just because Les Standiford is notable does not mean every piece of work is also notable on it's own. The key criteria for a book is Notability (books) in particular WP:BOOKCRIT. Currently your three sources are the book (not independent), the second appears to just be the book blurb (not independent), the last is IMDB (not a reliable source) and is about the film adaptation. So what you need to find is the independent sources, normally at least 3, for instance reviews and any awards won. KylieTastic (talk) 11:41, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

16:40:00, 10 April 2020 review of submission by Marcywinograd
Marcywinograd (talk) 16:40, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi,

I just submitted a draft for review and publication of Puppets Against AIDS. I included in the draft several photos, after having described the copyright owner as Gary Friedman of Gary Friedman Productions. Gary Friedman has granted me and Wikimedia a FREE LICENSE to use these photos (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Puppets_Against_AIDS) I just wrote Gary an email asking him to forward his FREE LICENSE GRANT permission to permissions-common@wikimedia.org I hope this will be sufficient, as the photos are fantastic and add so much to the entry.

Also, I'm finding that even photos I have taken, to which I own the copyright, are being nominated for deletion. This is upsetting. I write in the description that I took the photo, yet it is still being nominated for deletion. What is the problem? The same is true for video of news events that I have taken. ??? Thanks for any guidance or feedback you can offer. MarcyMarcywinograd (talk) 16:40, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

18:04:51, 10 April 2020 review of submission by Marcywinograd
Marcywinograd (talk) 18:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

How do I appeal the rejection of my draft "Puppets Against AIDS" entry?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Puppets_Against_AIDS

Below is my feedback to the editor who rejected my entry. I'm Marcy Winograd. Thank you for reviewing my draft "Puppets Against AIDS" and for responding promptly. I would appreciate it if you would further clarify, with quotes from specific sentences that you consider inappropriate, why you have rejected the article and explain explicitly (with a link) to how I can appeal your rejection as I wrote in the required neutral tone, included criticism of the project under "Evaluation", included multiple source citations (and not just to the creators' web site but also to NCBI abstracts, the World Encyclopedia of Puppetry, New Scientist and the Kenya Institute of Puppet Theater), external links to other Wikipedia articles that related to the topic. You mentioned in the rejection that the article reads more like an advertisement. To be clear, I posted evaluations of the program that included criticism, e.g, "Effectiveness and Evaluation" "Evaluators concluded, however, that Puppets Against AIDS could be even more effective if it were "incorporated into existing community-based education programmes on HIV infection." (citation) also "Although the researchers noted a need for sciprt changes to both improve the portrayal of women and to better address modern misconceptions about HIV/AIDS ... (citation) To further clarify, I wrote this article entry after reading on Wikipedia a list of requested articles. I had never heard of Puppets Against AIDS, nor had any relationship with the creator. I only contacted him recently to see if he had any photos to which he would grant a right to publish in the public domain on Wikimedia and Wikipedia. I believe this rejection is unfair and unwarranted and I would like to appeal it. Please send me a link to where I appeal and/or reconsider the rejection while providing very specific feedback on which sentences are not in accordance with Wikipedia guidelines. I spent many days/hours researching this program and am, frankly, shocked that the entry was rejected.Marcywinograd (talk) 18:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

18:11:44, 10 April 2020 review of submission by Invader2580
Invader2580 (talk) 18:11, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , subjects of articles must meet certain notability guidelines to be included in Wikipedia. Currently, your article has one source that is not independent of the subject (one of the criterion). Unfortunately, a reviewer has determined that these sources that would indicate notability likely don't exist, so no further action can be taken on your submission. Sam-2727 (talk) 19:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

23:07:14, 10 April 2020 review of submission by Captionrex
Captionrex (talk) 23:07, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

23:25:40, 10 April 2020 review of submission by Alexander marshall 07
Hello, I have created a page for a musician named Eleazar Galope in the Philippines. His biography might not be enough to support the credibility of his Wikipedia page but I know him too much and he requested me to create a Wikipedia page for him. It's so saddening that some staff rejected my submission, but however, I'll add more sources and biography for his page to be more verifiable if it gets accepted. Thank you very much. Alexander marshall 07 (talk) 23:25, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * As an editor who has been around for 9 years you have to know that A) a single link to a Soundcloud account is nowhere near enough to pass both the general notability guideline or the notability guideline for musicians; and B) that you should not be writing about people you have a personal connection to. Best, GPL93 (talk) 01:13, 11 April 2020 (UTC)