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= April 13 =

10:40:20, 13 April 2020 review of submission by Rachelanne Schiller
Thank you for your time. However, there is no COI in this case, I merely have the best information on this subject possible, so I was given the task to write it. My involvement does not change its accuracy, and there is no bias or opinion utilised, merely information access that I have more of than any other person. There is nothing against the rules about being involved with the company and writing the bio - and I have honestly disclosed that information. I respectfully ask that the article be reviewed for its content, and if there are any parts that stand out as requiring clarification, adjustment of verbiage or removal, I am happy to do so. Pixicorn 10:40, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi - you do have a COI, and have denoted so on User:Rachelanne Schiller. That in itself shouldn't have stopped a draft, maybe  can give some more details on the decline. Drafts and AFC are the correct location for COI/PAID articles. In it's current state, it's not really encylopedic, and a little promotional, but it wouldn't take much work to fix it. I'd kill the "Mud Run Guide Best Of OCR Awards" and reformat the history section into prose. The biggest issue would be seeking to see if the subject meets WP:GNG, as a lot of the references seem self-published or WP:PRIMARY. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski  (talk • contribs) 11:23, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so SO much for your valuable time ! I was unsure how there could be a COI, as I disclosed that I do indeed work for the company as requested before writing it, and while it is discouraged,it is not prohibited. As I have the most knowledge about the subject, it made sense for me to provide the information. As you mentioned, even if the COI stands, this feels like a very unreasonable reason to stop the draft. With massive respect to your input - Can you help me understand why the awards the event has won (factual and backed up with proof) should not be shown? Would an actor not be able to list their academy awards? A football team list the superbowls they have won? While it certainly is a positive thing, it is also informational and unbiased. Plus, you can find a similar section in one of your own articles here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimo_Tiger

The History section has no references to the event's appeal, pedigree or popularity, but only to the sequence of events within it's history and notable moments in the sport that occurred there. As OCR has hundreds of thousands of participants, those events are relevant to the sport's growth. Other races, such as Spartan Race and Tough Mudder can claim the same, quite fairly, and do. I am unsure how to reformat this section to show any more clinically. As you have a sports page background, it would be incredible if you could offer anything to this!

Lastly, as for the references, there are quite a few that are not directly from us, but the ones that come from our website, are things that offer specific information only offered within that context, but should not be considered as questionable or controversial, I merely wanted to back them up further.

Please do not think this is me being argumentative, merely hoping to support the choices made in a way that offers clarity. I worked on this for a very long time to make it fit the guidelines as I understood them! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rachelanne Schiller (talk • contribs) 13:03, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , Rachelanne, if you work for the company you need to properly disclose that. I'm leaving a message to that effect on your talk page here in a minute. Further, the draft should not have been rejected just because you have a COI, I am reversing that, but it will be declined due to improper formatting and sources. Sulfurboy (talk) 13:43, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

10:41:27, 13 April 2020 review of submission by OSUBuckeye1963
OSUBuckeye1963 (talk) 10:41, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

My entry for C.C. Thompson was rejected. The reason I made the submission is because there was a reference to his name under the RKO movie, "Hat, Coat and Glove." He is listed as the assistant director. There is a hyperlink with his name and when one clicks on it there is no further reference but there was a suggestion to anyone with information to make a Wikipedia submission. I was only following the suggestion. If not accepted perhaps the hyperlink for C.C. Thompson should be turned off. C.C. Thompson is also referenced in several other articles, mostly dealing with RKO movies including those of Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers. Thompson's name is listed on several of these pages. If more information needs to be included I could do so. I am his nephew residing in Dayton, Ohio. Sincerely, Carl Wick.


 * Hi . Thank you for your posting. Red links are often added to articles without deep consideration of whether there is, in fact, enough information published in independent, reliable, secondary sources to sustain an encyclopedia article on the linked topic. So red links should be understood as maybe Wikipedia should have an article on the topic. On close examination, there are only passing mentions of C.C. Thompson in the historical record of film, not enough to establish biographical notability, so I have removed the red link from Hat, Coat, and Glove. You may wish to explore alternative outlets, such as FamilySearch or other genealogy websites, to record your knowledge of your uncle. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:39, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

11:11:42, 13 April 2020 review of submission by Prasad3455
Prasad3455 (talk) 11:11, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * None of your sources are reliable the topic is not notable and has therefore been rejected. Theroadislong (talk) 11:15, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

13:20:42, 13 April 2020 review of submission by Zincage1
Zincage1 (talk) 13:20, 13 April 2020 (UTC)This article is a Ghanaian stub but will be expanded as time goes on.
 * Did you have a question? Sulfurboy (talk) 14:32, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

14:25:27, 13 April 2020 review of submission by Donmirdas
I removed the links from the article that are considered advertising. Does the article now meet the criteria?

Donmirdas (talk) 14:25, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , Your article has been rejected and nominated for speedy deletion, which means it will not be considered further. In the future, I would recommend not attempting to use Wikipedia to advertise something. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:31, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

2020-21 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball season
Well My Article Was Declined because it was too soon but the 2020 March madness tournament Was Canceled due to the Coronavirus. But The 2020-21 NCAA Men's Basketball season article should be an article now. 68.102.42.216 (talk) 14:43, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTAL. Also, almost none of the article is sourced and is full of empty sections. We also don't know when the start will be for sure, nor do we know which tourneys may be cancelled due to surrounding uncertainity of COVID-19. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:16, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Request on 14:50:02, 13 April 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Cbhare
I am creating an article page about Jason A Williams, he is the founder of 2nd largest urgent care company in the US, investor and technologist in crypto currency and waste to energy. We work together in PRTI (on of his companies) but otherwise i have no financial link. I am also a friend of and on a board with Ivan Sutherland father of computer graphics so i tried to take the format of Ivans page to use for Jasons as i've never written a wiki page before.

I have tried to give citations from public records, press, company info, colleges etc. But my article keeps being rejected.

Can you help me either delete or improve my submission?

many thanks chris

Cbhare (talk) 14:50, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , The whole article is nothing but a vanity promotional piece about the subject and does not have a place on wikipedia and thus was rejected. It has already been nominated for speedy deletion for being unambigiously promotional and will not be considered further. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:10, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi - the reviewers are telling you that you seem to be sourcing information from press releases and the like. We aim to reference information from reliable, independent, secondary sources; the existence or otherwise of such sources is used to determine whether a subject is notable. Please take a look at WP:FIRST, which will help you with things like tone, standard methods of citation, etc. You should also recognise that, since you know and work with these people, you do have a conflict of interest - you need to be aware of, and adhere to, the guidelines at COI. Cheers Girth Summit  (blether)  15:12, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

15:06:02, 13 April 2020 review of submission by Flaviomax63
Contribution was rejected for not having "significant coverage in independent reliable sources". This military operation has just been launched and there is not a lot of coverage around (mostly reprints of the EU press release). I have added the 2 most significant sources available at moment, coming from the Council of the EU and the United Nations. Should I delete the draft because no other "significant coverage" is available and therefore the subject doesn't qualify for a Wikipedia article? Thank you. Flaviomax63 (talk) 15:06, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , If there is no significant coverage than it is very likely the subject isn't yet notable WP:TOOSOON. Deleting it is not required, but if you want us to, please let us know. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:18, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

15:22:41, 13 April 2020 review of draft by Bloof7464
Hi there! I am a student trying to publish a page on female director, Pippa Bianco, for a school assignment. There are no current articles on Pippa Bianco so I am trying to submit a new draft, however I keep getting the message that my article is not published for review... I was wondering why this might be the case. The information was gathered and written prior in a Google Doc and was since pasted into the wiki article, could that be a possibility as to why it is not published for review? Thank you so much for your time! Bloof7464 (talk) 15:22, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I've submitted the draft on your behalf. In future, if you want to submit pages for review, simply add somewhere on the draft and hit save. (If you copy it from here please copy it as it appears when viewing the page, as I added coding to prevent it from working on this page). Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:32, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

18:51:14, 13 April 2020 review of submission by Iayaz
Hi, i couldnt find many sources (i provided two earlier but rejected) of my page.Please review as this is a about a housing society which actually exists. Iayaz (talk) 18:51, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:42. If there are no sources, thats the end of line for now. Please see WP:AMOUNT. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:26, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Request on 18:58:10, 13 April 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Zebuready
I have created my 1st simple article with verified official source but it declined, i am working improving but i do not understand what is the exact mistake i have done so the article is declined.

Article link : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zebuready/sandbox

Zebuready (talk) 18:58, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * So far, that page was never submitted and is not in article space, but on your user sandbox. I could in theory add code that allows you to submit it, but I'm not comfortable doing that right now as it would get declined. Wikipedia requires multiple independent relieable sources. Source 1 is a Wiki and not considered relieable and number 2 appears to be a directory listing and not relieable either. If you talk about Draft:A2Hosting that page was deleted under WP:G7. If you want it back, ask at WP:REFUND or post here and some admin will probbably restore it as well. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:24, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * This editor appears to be trying to game the system because they blanked their sandbox after it was Rejected and have re-created a draft on A2Hosting. I don't believe them above when they say that they do not understand what the exact mistake was.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:22, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response. So you mean wikipedia dont consider a valid reference source from another wiki? and the other source from Crunchbase, i have seen lot of wikipedia article using crunchbase as verified source. Zebuready (talk) 18:21, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry about this but i want to clearify i am not trying to game the system. I am new here and i really dont know how wikipedia works and what are the features there, i have deleted and resubmitted with my sandbox page because the option to submit article for review was missing, So i did this after making some valid changes to the articles. Anyway thanks for the guide, i will take care from future Zebuready (talk) 18:23, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * User:Zebuready - The option to resubmit the article for review was no longer there because the draft had been rejected. If a draft is rejected, you should either accept the rejection and do something else or discuss the rejection, rather than blanking the rejection.  You blanked and resubmitted the draft in two different ways.  I can't speak for anyone else, but if you accept that you have been told to leave it alone, I will leave you alone.  Robert McClenon (talk) 18:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * you explained me and i understand now, i dont know this before because i am new wikipedian that the reason when i see there is no options so i just plan to make some good edits and submitted again from step one. Zebuready (talk) 18:57, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

20:13:35, 13 April 2020 review of submission by Rkprince21
Rkprince21 (talk) 20:13, 13 April 2020 (UTC) please review my article and help me to get approval for writing good in the article as per rules.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rkprince21 (talk • contribs) 20:16, 13 April 2020 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Wim_Hoste
 * Did you have a question about why it was declined, or can you specify what you need help with? Sulfurboy (talk) 03:18, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Request on 21:42:13, 13 April 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Fadedsnow
Hi there!

I am getting acquainted with Wikipedia and after making a few edits on existing articles, I thought it'd be interesting to contribute to Wikipedia by making a new article. However, after submitting it twice, the second time was after I made edits from the first round of suggestions, I am unsure what I'm doing wrong. I found a lot of good third-party articles about a local company in my city, so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. What are specific suggestions that I can implement for this article so that it's Wikipedia quality? Thank you for your help!

Fadedsnow (talk) 21:42, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The sources that you have offered do not have the significant coverage of the subject required for the company to merit a Wikipedia article. A company merits an article if it has significant coverage in independent reliable sources showing how it meets the Wikipedia definition of a notable company. The sources you have offered are routine announcements of business transactions or press release-type articles, which do not establish notability. SEC or any government filing would be considered a primary source and also not establish notability. Independent sources must have chosen on their own to give significant coverage to this company, not just telling that it made a transaction or winning an award of some kind- but in depth coverage of the company. The article should summarize what that coverage is. 331dot (talk) 23:25, 13 April 2020 (UTC)