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= April 14 =

02:58:19, 14 April 2020 review of submission by Marcywinograd
Re: DRAFT AGI ORSI

Marcywinograd (talk) 02:58, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi this, is Marcy. I just received the message that my article on Agi Orsi, a female documentary filmmaker, was rejected because it relied on too many sources from the subject of the article and was more like an advertisement. I am really perplexed because I had dozens of citations that were from a variety of sources, Variety, LA Times, NY Times, International Documentary Association, various small market newspapers, and did not use any words like "popular" or "widely acclaimed." It is written in a neutral tone--does not praise the subject of the piece, a female documentary filmmaker. I am particularly surprised because the reason I wrote this pice was because there was a request on the requested articles page for an entry on Agi Orsi. I am a volunteer writer who spent many hours researching the filmmaker's work. I do not praise her, merely share the themes of her work. I've noticed Wikipedia has glowing pages about the male directors and writers with whom Orsi has collaborated, so why is this entry being rejected? I've also noticed Wikipedia does not have many female documentary producers on its site; in fact there is a glaring absence, with this category completely male-dominated, so I'm doubly confused as to why you are rejecting an article, written in a neutral tone, on a female documentary producer, with many citations from reputable sources. What is it that I can do, specifically, to make this entry acceptable? Do you want me to delete some of the film festival prizes that her films won? Does that make sense? I don't think so Thank you for any guidance or reconsideration you can offer after reviewing the voluminous and varied nature of the sources I cited, the double-standard being applied to a female documentarian, when there is a plethora of male-dominated entries about men in the documentary film world and the neutral toneMarcywinograd (talk) 03:06, 14 April 2020 (UTC).Marcywinograd (talk) 02:58, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


 * , The decline was not based on notability or the quality of sources, but in fact made due to the advert tone of the article itself. Wikipedia article are written in a formal, neutral tone devoid of puffery terms or celebrations of the subject. There's a few other issues that also need to be addressed: 1) The formatting of the article itself is incorrect and a bit sloppy, I would advise checking out WP:MOS or visit the WP:TEAHOUSE for help. 2) The excessive use of bolding needs to be tidied up. 3) IMDB is not considered a reliable source WP:RS and should be used only under the rarest of circumstances (none of which I'm seeing here).
 * The lack of coverage of women across all industries is a frustrating aspect that many editors are working to correct. I would recommend WikiProject Women in Red if that is something that interests you. However, please understand this lack of inclusion is not due to a bias, but rests solely on the shoulders of those that decide to write articles. Additionally, our standards for approval will not be lessened, no matter how little or how much an area of the population is or isn't covered. Sulfurboy (talk) 03:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The lack of coverage of women across all industries is a frustrating aspect that many editors are working to correct. I would recommend WikiProject Women in Red if that is something that interests you. However, please understand this lack of inclusion is not due to a bias, but rests solely on the shoulders of those that decide to write articles. Additionally, our standards for approval will not be lessened, no matter how little or how much an area of the population is or isn't covered. Sulfurboy (talk) 03:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

04:37:37, 14 April 2020 review of draft by Shywolfghost
Hello, I'm writing a wikipedia article about a band, that I believe passes the notability threshold. I'm confused as to how the evidence I've provided doesn't fill that quota as Individual notability and Songs in a tv show are both reasons to pass that threshold. Does there have to be a specific formatting of evidence? thank you Shywolfghost (talk) 04:37, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , No, having a song in a tv show does not make a band notable. Having a song that is a THEME of a tv show MAY denote notability. There's also issues that were already pointed out such as the use of social media links as references. You also claim that one of their songs "debuted at number one on Billboard's Alternative Songs Airplay Chart", yet this claim is not supported by the provided source. Sulfurboy (talk) 04:54, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

07:44:51, 14 April 2020 review of draft by 72.69.243.12
72.69.243.12 (talk) 07:44, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

I've come by to put in the 1998 Winter Olympics Closing Ceremony. Can you help me? I just watch it from Olympic Channel.

11:15:04, 14 April 2020 review of submission by RocknRollArchivist
Fats Domino was one of the greatest authors and performers of American popular music, popular not only at home, but all over the world. In particular, in Europe, where his fan clubs and numerous websites dedicated to his legacy were created and exist. The material presented in this article is unique and exhaustively describes all the recordings made by him during his 60-year career. It will undoubtedly be in demand by numerous fans of the artist in the world and collectors of his recordings.

However, if this material is not of interest to the English Wikipedia, I will post it, for example, in the French, Russian, and other versions of Wikipedia. Readers of these articles will wonder why this article was rejected by the English Wikipedia.

RocknRollArchivist (talk) 11:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'm assuming you didn't take the time to actually read why it was declined? Because nowhere was it mentioned that the subject isn't notable. You're welcome to post the material on any of the wikis, no one is stopping you. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:56, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

11:38:59, 14 April 2020 review of submission by EVS2015
Hi,

I've had two reviews and comments regarding the Wikipedia draft article on The Power of Nutrition. I made edits, trying to remove anything that read like an advertisement and changed the tone to more neutral. The second review also got declined because, additionally, it was not adequately supported by reliable sources. I was wondering how I could go about ensuring the article complies to the Wikipedia guidelines entirely? I thought there was still a good variety of independent, reliable, published sources, not just ones produced by the charity, so as this has been deemed not to be the case, I was wondering if anyone could perhaps point me to specific sections that don't comply, and in your opinion appear to be the problem?

Thanks. EVS2015 (talk) 11:38, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

12:11:11, 14 April 2020 review of submission by Neel n popat
Neel n popat (talk) 12:11, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

12:27:02, 14 April 2020 review of draft by RMJ13
I have created a page and sent for approval, COSRT and in the infobox, it will not show the information of 'CEO' and 'Chair' of the organization - how can I submit that information into the info box in a way that'll work? Also, the title page is 'COSRT' - should it instead be the full name 'College of Sexual and Relationship Therapists' or is COSRT okay? If it isn't, how would I change the title page? Thank youRMJ13 (talk) 12:27, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

RMJ13 (talk) 12:27, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

14:42:04, 14 April 2020 review of draft by Mgrodzins
How do I properly respond to the editors comments, for example,to thank them. Received comment from MurielMary. Mgrodzins (talk) 14:42, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Mgrodzins (talk) 14:42, 14 April 2020 (UTC) I have received a warning about "a link or reference running through a local proxy". It says to look for Proxy or gate. Where do I look?Mgrodzins (talk) 19:30, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

15:14:54, 14 April 2020 review of submission by Managementoffice20
He is a quite notable and underresearched person. There are lots of information available on the open web about him. He will play in Eurocup or Euroleague next season. People in the same situation with him have Wikipedia pages because they all had crucial NCAA careers like Alihan Demir. Alihan Demir is all time second leading scorer from Turkey in NCAA. Here are the links of what he accomplished:

https://gophersports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/alihan-demir/16681

https://drexeldragons.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/alihan-demir/6616

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4279197/alihan-demir

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/alihan-demir-1.html

Managementoffice20 (talk) 15:14, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * As noted by the reviewer, this player does not yet meet the Wikipedia definition of a notable basketball player. Once he appears in a professional game, he will. Please read other stuff exists; if you are aware of other similar articles that are equally inappropriate, please point them out, as we can only address what we know about. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate articles to go undetected, even for years.
 * If you are his manager or agent, you are required by Wikipedia's Terms of Use to declare that you are a paid editor. You should also review conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 15:50, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

18:55:38, 14 April 2020 review of submission by KylePippen1
KylePippen1 (talk) 18:55, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

This page should be created because it is based on a public person who has done stints on notable reality tv shows, as the Kardashians are posted I also believe that she should be. If you could please help me make this article notable enough to be posted to Wikipedia I would be very greatful.
 * , Your article has been rejected to the subject not having a chance of being notable and because the page violates many of our rules, in particular, it is a full on promotional vanity page. Surely you aren't actually suggesting that subject has the same notability as the Karashians... Sulfurboy (talk) 21:34, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

19:00:20, 14 April 2020 review of submission by Iayaz
Hi, i added refrence of my article (Pls refer to page 85 of https://cooperatives.punjab.gov.pk/system/files/Final%20for%20Printing.pdf#overlay-context=books, this is from website of punjab govrnment & confims existance of wapda town sheikhupura

looking forward that my article will be allowed to be published this time as i have added an authentic reference Iayaz (talk) 19:00, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , Your article was already rejected which means there is no current chance of demonstrating notability. As such, your draft will not be considered further. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:32, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Robochrome Gaming Society
Hello, I am writing to you as an associate for the collective of Robo. I would like you to reconsider your warning, since Robo stand for a cause that is worth looking into. Please find it in your heart to let Robo have a free individual voice on Wikipedia. Thank you for your efforts!
 * That's not how Wikipedia works. If you are going to edit with a WP:COI then please respect our rules. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:30, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

21:52:29, 14 April 2020 review of draft by AhmedKadiye
I corrected all the necessary information and also corrected the sources. So please review it and submit it Thank you

AhmedKadiye (talk) 21:52, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , the draft is awaiting review. We have rather a long backlog, and don't review drafts on request, as otherwise this page would be full of review requests, making it more difficult to help others with their drafts.  Alex Noble / 1-2 / TRB  18:52, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

22:36:00, 14 April 2020 review of submission by AwesomeAKO
Why did I get declined? Avery O (talk) 22:36, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia and This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.
 * This same info is found in the decline message itself along with links to applicable policy. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:40, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * This same info is found in the decline message itself along with links to applicable policy. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:40, 14 April 2020 (UTC)