Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 April 4

= April 4 =

04:43:19, 4 April 2020 review of submission by Ahmadarana
Ahmadarana (talk) 04:43, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Ahmadarana, if you're asking why your article was rejected as not notable, please provide three sources you think prove that the company complies with WP:GNG. Thanks, Sam-2727 (talk) 20:21, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

07:31:25, 4 April 2020 review of submission by Shahnawaz rules
Here is the Draft link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lahore_Motorway_City

Dear members,

I am trying to create a simple article on Wikipedia. i followed the Wikipedia standards for writing an article but still declined again and again.

I provide 16 genuine references for the authenticity including the official website of the main domain of the article but still my article get declined due to unreliable references.

I spend a lot of time on it but all in vain.

Shahnawaz rules (talk) 07:31, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
 * As already advised, Facebook is not a suitable source. Real Estate listings are not sources. Advertisements for the property are not acceptable sources.Theroadislong (talk) 07:36, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

09:07:18, 4 April 2020 review of draft by 142.167.9.37
I guess I would like help to explain it to me in a very simple way why my submission (John Trent (director)) has been rejected. I have included multiple links from multiple sources, and the subject is certainly more prolific than a lot of other filmmakers that already have articles included, not to mention that the submission itself indicates many films Mr. Trent has made that are already in wikipedia but which still don't have a link to the director. Wouldn't it make more sense to add the director of those films? (Unless I'm to assume that you have a space limit on how many articles you can include..?)

The first time this submission was rejected, I rewrote it to the specifications that were provided by your volunteer staff of "editors." If the information I was given by them (it was looked over by at least one of them) was wrong, that's not something that should be held against me, particularly as it was in a chatroom full of your representatives who are supposed to resemble some sort of ad-hoc help desk.

The only thing I'm left to assume is that the person who rejected it didn't read any of the references, as they (the refs) have indicated why the subject is an important one in the canadian film industry, which is certainly important in itself for an english language encyclopaedia. If the article is reviewed again and rejected for the references, I'm assuming that some transparency will then be applied and wikipedia will soon start deleting the thousands of poorly- (or just plain not at all) referenced articles that are current on the site..?

If it helps, I'm sure I could dig up numerous filmmakers for you whose output is less significant than Mr. Trent's but still have articles of their own so that you can delete them for not being "significant". Please let me know.

(Please forgive if I worded this less than politely. It's not my intention to insult or offend, just to get a straight answer, since your system of approval and rejection appears so opaque to the point that it seems like it's largely up to the editor rather than the content.)

Thank you in advance for any help you can provide here. 142.167.9.37 (talk) 09:07, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
 * As stated in the decline message, the sources you have offered do not show how Trent meets the Wikipedia definition of a notable creative professional. You have only cited the existence of Trent and his work; Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage(not just mentions) state about a subject. IMDB is not considered an acceptable source as it is user-editable.
 * As to other articles, this is a volunteer project, and we can only address what is pointed out to us. It is possible for inappropriate articles to go undetected, even for years.  If you'd like to help out, feel free to mark some of these other problematic articles you are aware of for deletion. 331dot (talk) 09:40, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

13:33:11, 4 April 2020 review of submission by Queenofboston
Queenofboston (talk) 13:33, 4 April 2020 (UTC) I am requesting a review after having added references to coverage of EU Scream activities by Politico. I have primary and secondary sources talking about EU Scream, including in the Financial Times, Brussels Times, Forbes, Politico and by Spiegel journalists. These are all top quality sources talking about EU Scream and about what EU Scream does. This is more than matching the coverage I see on numerous Wikipedia pages. I feel that the rejections are unfair, I am sure that there is a degree of discretion and that reviewers have reasons to reject but with 5 top papers sources, what more can be expected.
 * The sources are not primarily about EU Scream, as noted by the reviewers. If you notice other articles similar to yours, feel free to point them out so they can be addressed. As this is a volunteer project, it is possible for inappropriate articles to go undetected, and we can only act on what we know about. 331dot (talk) 17:40, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

15:03:44, 4 April 2020 review of submission by 112.134.176.21
Please review the article. This is a Sri Lanka based organization which is trying to make a real impact in the community, specially with disadvantaged kids through various programs.

112.134.176.21 (talk) 15:03, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I hope what I assume is your organization is successful in its worthy cause, but you cannot use Wikipedia to tell the world about it. The advice given in the draft by reviewers is correct. 331dot (talk) 17:35, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Request on 15:17:39, 4 April 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Moonwalker909
I have found an approved article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annabel_Dover which is similar in structure of my draft: Renee Pfister I would like to know why my was declines whilst these two examples are very similar

Moonwalker909 (talk) 15:17, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Please read other stuff exists. As this is a volunteer project, it is possible for inappropriate articles to go undetected, even for years. This is why each article is judged on its own merits, and it is a poor argument to cite other similar articles as a reason to permit yours; it is likely those other articles are inappropriate as well. That is the case with your example.
 * Wikipedia articles must do more than merely tell about the subject. They must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage  say about the subject. Please read Your first article. 331dot (talk) 17:32, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

23:04:44, 4 April 2020 review of draft by 24.193.214.238
Hi! I am trying to add photos to my page and having a terrible time. help! Thank you, Jennifer Cecere 24.193.214.238 (talk) 23:04, 4 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi . I've corrected the image syntax on User:Jencecere/sandbox so that the photo displays. See Help:Pictures for more information.


 * It's fine to add an image of yourself to your sandbox as a test, or to have one on your user page. Neither of those should be submitted to Articles for Creation for review, because they aren't going to be encyclopedia articles. Writing an autobiography, if that's what you were starting, is strongly discouraged. Wikipedia is not a place to write about yourself; I've never seen it end well when people try. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:38, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

23:09:23, 4 April 2020 review of submission by GanimeteShabani
GanimeteShabani (talk) 23:09, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

23:32:07, 4 April 2020 review of draft by Jtatton
Hello! I'm currently trying to improve the quality of my draft article on Concurnas from a references perspective before it hits review. There are currently 5 non concurnas.com references in the article (Help:Your_first_article states that a minimum of 3 are required to prove notability): news.efinancialcareers.com, jaxenter.com, waterstechnology.com, infoworld.com and programmez.com. Are these sources considered to be high enough quality? If not which ones should I supplement?

Jtatton (talk) 23:32, 4 April 2020 (UTC)


 * for the reasons explained on the draft. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:25, 5 April 2020 (UTC)