Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 August 12

= August 12 =

00:00:17, 12 August 2020 review of submission by Thebuzzreporters
Thebuzzreporters (talk) 00:00, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

03:01:20, 12 August 2020 review of submission by 70.51.223.36
70.51.223.36 (talk) 03:01, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Please link to the draft you refer to so that we can actually provide help. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 03:21, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Seems I need help in editing the submission to pass thru guidelines...what is my best approach to make appropriate edits?

03:43:42, 12 August 2020 review of submission by Allthewaydigital
Who are you do decide? Allthewaydigital (talk) 03:43, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , It appears that we are the ones who make the decisions. Please come back without a conflict of interest. We do not accept advertising Fiddle   Faddle  09:13, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

05:51:42, 12 August 2020 review of submission by Theenglishworkshop
I would like to know why my article is not worthy of being made public. This is just a biography. It is not meant to be educational. Is there some other section where I can post? I am confused. Theenglishworkshop (talk) 05:51, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft was rejected because it has no independent reliable sources with significant coverage to support its content. Wikipedia is not for merely telling about someone. A Wikipedia article should summarize only what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a subject, showing how(in this case) it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. "Significant coverage" goes beyond brief mentions, name drops, routine announcements, interviews, and other primary sources. Please see Your First Article for more information. 331dot (talk) 08:56, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Request on 06:57:14, 12 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Ana Maria Teodorescu
Hello, thank you for your review on my article Dragos Iliescu. It looks like the submission was not accepted due to copyright. But the information you are referring to are part of the person's CV, which he sent me. The CV was written by himself and he gave it to me to use as a reference. And these are names of books he wrote or was co-author. Would it be accepted if I include the CV as a reference?

Ana Maria Teodorescu (talk) 06:57, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , No.
 * For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, and is in WP:RS, and is significant coverage. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact cited, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make any draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the person is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today. Fiddle   Faddle  09:09, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

08:41:23, 12 August 2020 review of draft by Vsp.manu
This draft has been declined by saying it needs more notable reference. I have rewritten this page and added more References. I am requesting you to help to improve the contents if you have noticed.

It will great help if you suggest me to either include or exclude or arrange the information given in the draft. I am open to remove if anything is against policy.

Many thanks.

Vsp.manu (talk) 08:41, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

09:22:49, 12 August 2020 review of submission by 27.34.50.237
27.34.50.237 (talk) 09:22, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * This submission lacks any form of verifyability. The 3 inline citations are dead links for me, two being a no longer existing server and the third one a classic HTTP 404. The facebbok profile, which isn't a reliable source never existed aparently (it redirects to the homepage) and the Twitter account was banned for violating the rules. If you are, who originally created this draft, please login. Victor Schmidt (talk) 10:23, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

12:16:17, 12 August 2020 review of submission by Aryanfanpage24
I have made this page and there is nothing copyright material or any type of restricted material available on my draft, its my personal draft, so please re-review it and approve it Thank You

Aryanfanpage24 (talk) 12:16, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You have no sources at all in the draft, let alone independent reliable sources. A Wikipedia article is not for merely telling about someone.  A Wikipedia article should only summarize what independent reliable sources have chosen on their own to say about a person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. Please read Your First Article for more information. 331dot (talk) 12:21, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

13:30:43, 12 August 2020 review of submission by Alikhan7770
Alikhan7770 (talk) 13:30, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * What you wrote is not an encyclopedia article, but an advertisement. 331dot (talk) 13:35, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

14:40:16, 12 August 2020 review of submission by Chamofdo.99
Chamofdo.99 (talk) 14:40, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , I rather think you need to ask a question. The draft is.... unsuitable. Fiddle   Faddle  14:48, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Request on 14:52:35, 12 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Jakecalder
Hey, Can someone review my draft - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Vivek_Ramachandran

Thank you

Jakecalder (talk) 14:52, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , there is a small chance that your draft is notable, but the sources don’t fully show that. Eternal Shadow   Talk  16:17, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note that most of the sources are unreliable as well, furtherly making it problematic. Eternal Shadow   Talk  16:17, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

15:01:43, 12 August 2020 review of submission by Ipsub14
Ipsub14 (talk) 15:01, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , your draft was promotional, but you blanked it, so I will G7 it (presumably good faith blanking). Eternal Shadow   Talk  16:14, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

17:20:08, 12 August 2020 review of submission by Sensei daniel san
Sensei daniel san (talk) 17:20, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Both someone else from my company and I wrote Wikipedia articles for our firm- so there are 2 submissions pending. Will the most recent one replace the other? Both of us spent a lot of time on the articles, and don't want to lose our work.


 * have either of you declared that you are paid by your company to write drafts here? PLease see paid Fiddle   Faddle  17:25, 12 August 2020 (UTC)


 * @Fiddle the article I am writing is indeed for my employer, but they have not asked me or directly paid me to write it. Nonetheless, I will include that I belong to this company in my article. Do I just print that template you gave me at the top of the article? Sensei daniel san (talk) 18:11, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , I ttink it has all been done. Thank you. We construe paid editing pretty broadly, so an employee of X is considered to be paid by X when they write about X or and of X's staff. This saves improper and unpleasant accusations. Transparency is a good thing.
 * Please advise your colleague to do the same Fiddle   Faddle  21:08, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

20:41:17, 12 August 2020 review of submission by Mehmoodj1
Mehmoodj1 (talk) 20:41, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , Does it look like any other valid article to you? Fiddle   Faddle  21:10, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

22:52:38, 12 August 2020 review of submission by Sensei daniel san
Sensei daniel san (talk) 22:52, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

@Fiddle does this mean it's going to always be a 'no'? Or do I just need to be transparent about my employer and remove all references that point directly back to the company webpage?
 * Realistically, it will be "no" for years. Some day Draft:EdCast could become notable, but there's no sign of that being just around the corner for EdCast. You may find WP:BFAQ informative. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:52, 13 August 2020 (UTC)