Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 August 27

= August 27 =

05:51:40, 27 August 2020 review of draft by 197.185.102.91
I’m having a school assignment that requires me to write a Wikipedia article about the impact of Covid19 within any of the South African township(of my choice). Thus for me to get good marks, I need to have the article of my own topic and submit the topic to my lecturer. Thus how much content is needed or how many topics is needed for my article to be published? Once my article has been marked I’m likely to delete it since I’m only writing it for school purposes

197.185.102.91 (talk) 05:51, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thats a realy bad idea of your teacher, to take Wikipedia articles as somethign you could give marks on. Creating a Wikipedia article is the absolute hardest task one can undertake on Wikipedia. It requires much effort and pratice. Your teacher may wants to have a look at Student assignments. If you want to make a new attempt, consider following the guide User:Ian.thomson/Howto. What you may also want to tell me is why the article resides as a subpage of ADQ2020Group, which btw has a disallowed username that would require changing. I think thats enough for now, if you or your instructor want to know specifically whats wrong with the current version and they dont know it after having a close look at all the pages I have linked to, please ask again. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:42, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

07:32:18, 27 August 2020 review of submission by Khusd khuvd
Khusd khuvd (talk) 07:33, 27 August 2020 (UTC) why my pablish is not coming in wikipedia
 * This lacks reliable sources and doesn't looks like a serious attempt at writing an article. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:45, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

09:22:37, 27 August 2020 review of submission by Rumelwapbd
Rumel Ahmed 09:22, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You haven't asked a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. It reads as little more than a social media profile, which is not an encyclopedia article. A Wikipedia article should summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. 331dot (talk) 09:42, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Request on 11:28:49, 27 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Adilmustakimqureshi8
Adilmustakimqureshi8 (talk) 11:28, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * This appears to be a (failed) attempt to write about yourself. please note that creating an article about yourself is strongely discouraged. If you realy want to make a new attempt (which I don't recommend) have a look at User:Ian.thomson/Howto, a guide by Ian.thomson on how to create new articles, as part of a larger guide by him. please also see Advice for younger editors. Victor Schmidt (talk) 12:14, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

13:42:03, 27 August 2020 review of submission by Wikiinfopedia2019
Man, I do not accept this claim. Advertising? Based on what? That's laughable. I read well the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoiding_harm#Pseudo-biographies you are denying me to create an article about a well-known woman who owns a finishing school, the first online one of its kind.

Give me a reason to stop it, because until now I see conspiracy theories with no fundaments, biased distorted claims - so you mention Wikipedia's rule applied to your own distortion of the facts.

Wikiinfopedia2019 (talk) 13:42, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft is only sourced to interviews of Bey. Primary sources do not establish that she meets the notability guidelines for people. Wikipedia is not interested in what someone says about themselves, only what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about them. 331dot (talk) 15:16, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * As an outside observer, the article currently feels like it's promoting a rank-and-file blogger. We care about people who are notable. Notability can be demonstrated by showing the community that the subject has received substantial coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. See our general notability guideline. That means there should be many articles written in depth about Bey, without her involvement. An interview, for instance, wouldn't establish notability, because it is dependent on her. A person who owns a finishing school is not by default notable, and certainly not any more than someone who owns a plumbing company. Just because she spends time "rubbing shoulders" with the rich doesn't make her more notable than someone who snakes drains for a living. So if you want to continue, you are going to have to demonstrate this notability. And I'd also scale back some of the promotional language. It shouldn't read like a brochure selling the 'demystification of the jet set lifestyle'. It should read like a dispassionate biography. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:23, 27 August 2020 (UTC)


 * To quote WP:WISDOM:

"It's much more productive to refute the arguments of the majority through reasoned discussion than imply they are wrong because they are the majority, or implying you are being repressed because they don't agree with you. If you attack people who oppose you as if they were a collective with an agenda against you, then whether they were or not, they will certainly become one. There is no cabal conspiring against you unless you created it. Also, consider that if many people disagree with you, it may be just because you are wrong."


 * The only thing that's laughable is that you think Anna Bey is a suitable subject for an encyclopedia. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:33, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

14:19:49, 27 August 2020 review of submission by 103.87.30.141
103.87.30.141 (talk) 14:19, 27 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi . Wikipedia is not like Facebook or LinkedIn. It is not a place to write about yourself. There are over 7 billion people in the world. Each has their own story, but very few warrant encyclopedia articles. Unless someone has gained significant notice by the world at large, as evidenced by in-depth coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources, a biography of them is not suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. You may also find the cautionary essay "An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing" informative. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:37, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

20:04:09, 27 August 2020 review of draft by Layla noor
Hi! I'm trying to add an article about an actress that's been in the popular Netflix series Warrior Nun. This actress has already been featured in award-winning short films and others. Her name has been all over the news, together with Alba Baptista. I have given some references, but I'm not sure what other references would be considered valid for Wikipedia. I read your articles on sources, but still not sure. Can you please help?

Layla noor (talk) 20:04, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * IMDB is not considered a reliable source as it is user-editable. A Wikipedia article should summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about this actress, showing how she meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable actress. Not every actress merits a Wikipedia article; if there are few or no sources with coverage of her, she would not merit one at this time. 331dot (talk) 20:18, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

20:10:35, 27 August 2020 review of submission by 2601:403:281:54F0:CC25:3779:BF6:EC2B
2601:403:281:54F0:CC25:3779:BF6:EC2B (talk) 20:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but your draft has no independent reliable sources to support its content and show how this person meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. 331dot (talk) 20:19, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

20:37:08, 27 August 2020 review of submission by 2600:1009:B16D:882D:21B1:E29C:4E9E:BC34
I ADDED ADDITIONAL REFERENCES AS REQUESTED. Now what is the problem? 2600:1009:B16D:882D:21B1:E29C:4E9E:BC34 (talk) 20:37, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

20:59:43, 27 August 2020 review of draft by Travelinfashionberlin
Hello there. Still trying to get the above draft:The_Travel_Almanac approved. References are independent and trustworthy, including the New York Times, models.com, The Guardian, The German Design Awards. Similar, less established publications have existing wikipedia listings. Featured personalities in the publication are of the highest international relevance and caliber. Also, the original declining User:Quek157 has been long blocked now, because of wrongly commenting on drafts. Therefor, would highly appreciate a re-evaulation of the draft. Thank you.

InFashionBerlin 20:59, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

21:24:51, 27 August 2020 review of submission by 2600:1009:B16D:882D:21B1:E29C:4E9E:BC34
Does this draft page also have a ‘talk’ page?...if so, please provide a link within the draft so that I can access its talk page. Thank you. 2600:1009:B16D:882D:21B1:E29C:4E9E:BC34 (talk) 21:24, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The talk page is here Draft talk:Cedar Point peninsula (Ohio) you have already left a comment on it previously. Theroadislong (talk) 21:28, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Anon, I spent about 25 minutes cleaning it up. The bottom line is that while your contribution is appreciated, if you're not interested in fleshing out that article, there's a strong likelihood that it will ultimately be deleted. You can't force other people to be interested in this subject, and abandoned drafts eventually get axed. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:54, 27 August 2020 (UTC)