Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 August 30

= August 30 =

00:17:31, 30 August 2020 review of draft by Blueboyto
This is the first time that I've submitted a WikiProject Articles for creation. I'm not very computer savvy and I'm unsure of the structure to how this should be submitted. I would appreciate some feedback moving forward.Blueboyto (talk) 00:17, 30 August 2020 (UTC) Blueboyto (talk) 00:17, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I could submit it for review for you, howewer, if it were to be submitted it would be rejected quickly. I have identified the following problems:


 * Its overly promotional. Wikipedia doesnt want to be used to promote or "generate awareness" about somebody. Its full of WP:PUFFERY.
 * Since this is a biography of a living person, WP:Inline citations are required.
 * many user-generated sources arent acceptable either because they are primary or unreliable. This includes most social networks and Wikipedia. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:41, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

08:37:08, 30 August 2020 review of submission by Ruthwyshogrod
I wrote this page and it was rejected because of supposed conflict of interest that I had. I was told the page "gives the impression that I have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic." What I don't understand is that this page is a translation from an existing (published, approved) Wikipedia page in Hebrew on the same topic - https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/סמדר_נהב. I was paid to translate the page from Hebrew to English. Beyond that I have no financial stake. So I wonder if there is any way to reverse the decision to reject?

Ruthwyshogrod (talk) 08:37, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ❌ Different Wikipedias are different projects and possibly different rules. See WP:OSE. I cant read hebrew, so I cant tell if the hebrew article needsto be deleted as well. This draft is a highely promotional press release full of puffery. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:36, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Request on 08:37:30, 30 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Eswnav
Eswnav (talk) 08:37, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Move this article
 * ❌. It still hasn't improved. The fact that you try so hard to get this to mainspace lets me question wether you ahev a WP:COI to disclose? Note that if it were moved to article space, it would get taken to AFD very soon. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:31, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

09:04:10, 30 August 2020 review of draft by Arif917
I am unable to make my article in Wiki format. Even I am trying to learn from a template but it seems for me like a programming language. Hence I want experts to manage my data and show it like Wiki format.

Arif917 (talk) 09:04, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You can have a look at Help:Wikitext or the Wikipedia article on Wikisyntax to learn more about the syntax of Wikipedia and other Wikis. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:17, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

11:10:17, 30 August 2020 review of submission by IISL
IISL (talk) 11:10, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

11:29:41, 30 August 2020 review of submission by Ponmaakishan
Pon Maa Kishan A 11:29, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , specify what do you need.  Gerald WL  11:53, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

12:50:25, 30 August 2020 review of submission by Wikihelp2022
hello dear i would like to know why is it rejected, this page is dedicated to the family of Almohamed it just lets old ancestors who passed away/alive to be seen if his/here family member is alive or passed away while honoring the family. Wikihelp2022 (talk) 12:50, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a place to memorialize our families. 331dot (talk) 12:52, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , It is just a collection of names with no encyclopaedic significance nor notability. Wikipedia is not here to honour families Fiddle   Faddle  12:53, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

12:54:44, 30 August 2020 review of submission by 88.201.67.204
this wiki needs to be uploaded for the support of the royal family

88.201.67.204 (talk) 12:54, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * No. Fiddle   Faddle  12:59, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

14:54:55, 30 August 2020 review of submission by Yerkhanat
What can I do in order to publish this article? I think that I have already provided many sources. Yerkhanat (talk) 14:54, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The draft has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Please reference the comments and links left by the reviewer. 331dot (talk) 15:34, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

16:09:33, 30 August 2020 review of submission by Twag1105
The company that is the subject of this article plays a significant role in the tax software arena. It has over 600 employees worldwide. Other tax software companies have similar articles, see for example Intuit, the content and style of which this article attempted to emulate.

I respectfully ask for re-review, noting that the company is a significant contributor to its industry.

Twag1105 (talk) 16:09, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , There is nothing in the draft to indicate the notability you wish to display.
 * We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, and in WP:RS please. See WP:42. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact referred to, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the topic is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today.
 * The references you have chosen, in the main, are PR pieces or regurgitated PR pieces.
 * If you believe it has sufficient merit there is nothing to prevent your starting a new draft with excellence of referencing. This draft can go no further Fiddle   Faddle  16:14, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification. I would note that there are nearly two dozen references cited, only one of which is to the company website (Which I'm happy to remove if that is preferable). The majority point to trade publications that are independent of the organization. Your advice on how to improve would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twag1105 (talk • contribs) 16:20, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

16:38:51, 30 August 2020 review of submission by Twag1105
Seeking suggestions on how to improve this page. Previous criticism included lack of independent references, which has been fixed. there are 20+ references using independent trade sources. The content has also been reviewed to remove any inadvertent advertising language, and structure has been fixed to emulate articles about similar organizations, principally Intuit. Advice on how to proceed is appreciated. Twag1105 (talk) 16:38, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , https://www.prweb.com/releases/safesend_returns_and_taxcaddy_launch_integration/prweb16001396.htm is a press release as are many others. It appears that you misunderstand referencing. Please read what I wrote to you above Fiddle   Faddle  16:47, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Fiddle  Faddle  Again, thank you for the clarification. I do understand your concern about the reference you cited, and will remove it. Most of the others point to CPA Advisor, Accounting Today, AccountingWeb, and other independent sources. Is the recommendation that the reference you cited above be removed and then it should be suitable for publication? Your continued advice is appreciated. Twag1105 (talk) 16:51, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , run 100% of them against WP:42. I looked at the first six. Of those I see one that may stand the test. Your problem is that you have camouflaged any good references with poor ones Fiddle   Faddle  16:55, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Fiddle  Faddle  Understood, I appreciate your comment. I'll review the draft and references and make the best references stand out more prominently. Twag1105 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:57, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , lose the bad ones entirely. Fiddle   Faddle  17:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Once you have done so please approach the reviewer who rejected the draft and ask them if they will reconsider the rejection Fiddle   Faddle  17:04, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Review of Massar
Kindly check the draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Massar_Solutions. I have worked hard to improve the article as per the instructions of reviewers. The company Massar is owned by the Government of UAE and Abu Dhabi. 51% is owned by Abu Dhabi Water & Electricity Authority and 49% is owned by Abu Dhabi National Energy Company PJSC (TAQA). Thank you for your help (Francisjk2020 (talk) 17:38, 30 August 2020 (UTC))

18:17:14, 30 August 2020 review of submission by Kurosawa89
I have added more information to this page, including band members and lyrical content. I hope this helps get the page approved. Kurosawa89 (talk) 18:17, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

23:16:02, 30 August 2020 review of draft by Smohan94
I wanted to change the title of the page to be Ranbir Singh Latayan instead of Dr. Ranbir Singh. This is due to feedback I received from a reviewer. Thanks!

Smohan94 (talk) 23:16, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ Article can now be found at Draft:Ranbir Singh Latayan. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:20, 31 August 2020 (UTC)