Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 December 12

= December 12 =

05:34:08, 12 December 2020 review of submission by TechNerd22
My post was removed because "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources". I`m wondering if this means there was not enough sources, or if it means the sources on the page are not reliable.

Thanks! TechNerd22 (talk) 05:34, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * there is not enough citations and reliable sources within the draft (YouTube, Facebook?).  SMB9 9thx   my edits!  07:08, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * to expand on that, youtube is rarely an acceptable source, Facebook isn't either. The second link is dead. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:04, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

06:05:46, 12 December 2020 review of submission by Rajaneesh.R.Nayak
Rajaneesh.R.Nayak (talk) 06:05, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * What? You didn't ask a question...  SMB9 9thx   my edits!  07:05, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

11:56:00, 12 December 2020 review of submission by Fabregado
So what do i do next? should i make a fresh post with corrections, or maybe you could help me restore it? Fabregado (talk) 11:56, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The draft has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. There is no point in further editing it at this time. 331dot (talk) 11:58, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

15:00:38, 12 December 2020 review of submission by Visregz
I have updated the profile. please review it Visregz (talk) 15:00, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia doesn't host "profiles", your draft was rejected, meaning it will not be considered further, you have added IMDb and Wikipedia as sources neither are reliable, so notability has not been shown. Theroadislong (talk) 15:12, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

16:23:34, 12 December 2020 review of draft by Anonymoussnowman1973
I am trying to upload credible information And make a new Wikipedia page. Lisa Lopane is an American Model and Rapper with credible sources. Can someone Help me with these edits?

Anonymoussnowman1973 (talk) 16:23, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

19:08:27, 12 December 2020 review of submission by 70.114.31.252
70.114.31.252 (talk) 19:08, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You didn't ask a question. Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:53, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Request on 19:10:03, 12 December 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Carlden10
Hello, I replied to the last comment about my deletion of my article submission ("Radmila Lolly") and I don't see it live anywhere. I responded to specific questions of why the subject is in fact notable (in the music and fashion industries), mainly that the subject has two songs that are live on Billboard charts (both within the top 40) and was featured in an issue of Elle magazine. Please advise on how to rectify this submission situation, thank you. Carlden10 (talk) 03:09, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Carlden10 (talk) 19:10, 12 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi . The "last comment" you refer to above presumably means this 2 December thread. If you wish to address a particular editor, use some form of notification as described at Help:Talk pages.
 * I concur that Radmila Lolly has had two songs on an applicable US chart, and so satisfies WP:MUSICBIO criterion #2.
 * Draft:Radmila Lolly was deleted, not for lack of notability, but for being egregiously promotional, so much so that it would have to be blown up and fundamentally rewritten to serve as an encyclopedia article. I can't see the deleted draft, and so cannot comment on it, but writing a new article is one of the most difficult, time consuming, and frustrating tasks a novice editor can tackle. There are millions of easier ways of contributing to the encyclopedia, see Task Center for how to help.
 * After you've gained more experience you could start over on Lolly from scratch, and should then find it easier. If you don't want to invest that much time and effort, you could take advantage of Requested articles to ask that a more experienced Wikipedian create an article on the topic. --Worldbruce (talk) 20:28, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for responding. With all due respect I'm not clear how my experience has anything to do with rejecting Radmila Lolly's article. I've been attempting this for over a year now and I don't see what else I can learn that will convince the community to accept her article. And I'm now unclear on it being "egregiously promotional". I'm begging for help as I'm getting unclear explanations from everyone and conflicting feedback every time I submit. Now I'm confused as to what is promotional about the article I submitted when it's just quotes from her online presence. Please help, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlden10 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

20:48:39, 12 December 2020 review of draft by Sallen1980
Hi, I want to improve an article I submitted, I have received the comment: adv,bio Can you tell me what that means, and how to correct it? Thank you! Sallen1980 (talk) 20:48, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks for reporting this, I have fixed the decline mmessage at Draft:Jeanne_Martinet_(author) to be more meaningfull. All the blue texts in the decline message are links, meaning you can click on them to get more information. Victor Schmidt (talk) 22:12, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

22:31:25, 12 December 2020 review of submission by TechNerd22
My page was once again declined due to "zero reliable sources". Alright, so I can understand source 1 being unreliable, but source 2, 3 and 4 are all from Steve Cash's own YouTube channel, How is the person's official YouTube channel, unreliable? And source 5 is People, which according to this: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources - Wikipedia, is a reliable source. All but 1 source is unreliable. So why was my post removed for "Zero reliable sources"? TechNerd22 (talk) 22:31, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You are quoting the phrase "zero reliable sources", but I don't know where that phrase comes from. I certainly don't see it at the article in question. What I do see is that a reviewer pointed out that you need to demonstrate the subject has received significant coverage (not passing mentions) from "reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject". Now, the subject's own YouTube channel would be a primary source, since the subject would ostensibly be speaking about himself. And objectively, you would likely agree that any source source where the subject speaks about himself or is otherwise involved, (like with an interview), that would not qualify as independent of the subject. Did you have any other questions? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:58, 13 December 2020 (UTC)