Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 December 15

= December 15 =

00:41:18, 15 December 2020 review of submission by 73.243.9.244
I believe this deserves a re review. Kyle kulinski is a YouTube political commentator with last time I checked 926,000 subscribers on his channel secular talk, which I believe makes Kyle kulinski relevant. His large following also applies to Twitter, and Kyle kulinski has interviewed people from the likes of Bernie sanders, and I think he very much deserves a Wikipedia page. 73.243.9.244 (talk) 00:41, 15 December 2020 (UTC)


 * The number of YouTube followers/subscribers is not part of the notability criteria, as that is easily gamed or otherwise difficult to determine. A person can merit a Wikipedia article with five subscribers, and not merit one with five million.  What matters is if they receive significant coverage in independent reliable sources showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of notability.  Your draft has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further.  Please heed the comments from reviewers. 331dot (talk) 08:28, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

00:45:04, 15 December 2020 review of submission by ThadeusOfNazereth
From what I can tell, this article should be approved - It appears to meet WP:GNG and the sources are verifiable. The issue I'm having is that the page exists as a redirect here: The Ebony Horse, so I can't use the helper script to create a mainlist article. What should be done in this situation? ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 00:45, 15 December 2020 (UTC)


 * If you intend to move the draft, request that the redirect be speedily deleted (WP:G6) to make way for the move. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:38, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Request on 03:35:35, 15 December 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by LMPAJ
Hi, I hope whoever is reading this is well. I am just writing because I am not entirely sure of the direction that the review of my article has taken. My first article is on Hector Carlos Lora, and so I submitted this "Draft: Hector Carlos Lora" to the article reviewers. I was able to work with one of them for a while, but then, after providing much necessary and appreciated feedback, the reviewer simply deleted my messages and questions (a total of 5) from their talk page without answering them. I became confused, and I thought this meant that their lack of reply meant my article was ok and I could publish, so I did that. Instead, another reviewer told me that this was not allowed, and thus they continued to create a talk page for my article ("Talk Page: Hector Carlos Lora"). I am willing to go through the entire process, I just wish someone would answer my questions. My main concern right now is what exactly this talk page means and how I should address it. I've left two messages asking the latest reviewer about this (both unanswered), and have even left a message on that same talk page also asking what it means. I just hope you guys are able to answer me on the path that my article's review has taken, and give me some advice as to how to proceed in order to ensure that it is published. Thank you for your time and energy reading this, LMPAJ (talk) 03:35, 15 December 2020 (UTC).


 * Hello, I've looked through the page histories, and it seems that the main issue was that you created a duplicate of your draft in mainspace, which is where draft submissions that are approved are moved. then declined your draft, believing that the article already existed in mainspace and that the draft was redundant. Naturally, he was annoyed to later discover that it was a duplicate of your draft submission. If you have made a submission at Articles for Creation, it is expected that a reviewer will move it into mainspace after a review.


 * The talk page is where issues relating to an article are discussed and consensus is generated. I'm not quite sure what they are expecting you to discuss, but hopefully they will explain. You might want to ping Robert on the talk page using and directing your question to him. Give him a little while to respond. If you don't get your answer in a few days, you're welcome to drop me a message on my talk page and I will help you sort it out. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 10:18, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

05:39:32, 15 December 2020 review of draft by Chandra Mohan Reddy K
I had submitted lot more times this article but it's declined all the times I don't know what the reason is.So please help me to finish this up. Chandra Mohan Reddy K (talk) 05:39, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello . This draft was declined because it entirely lacks references to independent reliable sources that devote significant coverage to this person. Such sources are required, and an acceptable article will almost entirely summarize what those independent sources say. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  05:58, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

08:20:45, 15 December 2020 review of submission by Edwardkao
Hi, I have do my best to edit the wiki, Please update:)

Edwardkao (talk) 08:20, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 08:26, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

10:38:38, 15 December 2020 review of submission by Textor Alector
strengthened proof of notability by restructured referencing, inclusion of independently verifiable sources

and relegation of org site to external links.

Textor Alector (talk) 10:38, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

pls forgive double sumbission Textor Alector (talk) 10:40, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

10:53:42, 15 December 2020 review of submission by Ennylron
Added information. Please help me with what else I can add to the band profile. Thank you! Ennylron (talk) 10:53, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not contain "profiles", Wikipedia has articles. YouTube is seldomly a reliable source (and in this case it isn't. Victor Schmidt (talk) 11:37, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

15:55:40, 15 December 2020 review of submission by Cocojackie
Hello, I would be very grateful if someone can help me improving my draft. It has been said that the references were not good enough, which makes me confused as I was careful by selecting references written by journalist and third parties. If someone could help me with that would make my day ! Thank a lot! Cocojackie (talk) 15:55, 15 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello . The problem is not sourcing but notability. It is not clear from the sources that Katrine Philp qualifies for a Wikipedia article. You will need to demonstrate that she fulfils the requirements either in WP:GNG or WP:DIRECTOR. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 16:14, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

21:11:31, 15 December 2020 review of draft by Just Piping In
How do I add a tag to a draft? Also how do I know what type of tags there are? Thank you! Just Piping In (talk) 21:11, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Does anyone know how to do this? Also, can someone look at my article? Thank you. Just Piping In (talk) 13:52, 16 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi . If the "tags" you're referring to are WikiProjects, you can get more information by expanding the section "Improving your odds of a speedy review" within the large gray box at the top of the draft. There's a big blue button in that section that brings up a form to assist you. Likely search strings for projects would be Florida, LGBT, politics, and perhaps elections. You can also examine the talk pages of articles about similar topics to get ideas of relevant projects.
 * Someone will look at the draft after you submit it (by clicking the blue "Submit the draft for review!" button. With the current backlog, that might take three months at the current reviewing rate, but there's also a strong chance that the wait would be only a few days if the draft is easy to decline or easy to approve. Most of the time adding WikiProjects won't change how quickly a review happens, but some reviewers work only certain subject areas, and if those happen to match the draft, you could get lucky. --Worldbruce (talk) 23:58, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

22:44:04, 15 December 2020 review of submission by Hickeygamez
I would like an opportunity to improve this submission further. I feel like it was too hastily declined. What makes some medical journals more notable than others? Hickeygamez (talk) 22:44, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further as in the opinion of the reviewer there is little to no chance it can meet the notability criteria at this time. Please review the notability criteria for journals. 331dot (talk) 10:18, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank-you for your reply. I've read the criteria, but I just don't understand how it doesn't meet those criteria but something like this does: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Services_Research_(journal) I am not suggesting that journal shouldn't be on there, but rather that CMEJ should. Hickeygamez (talk) 16:27, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Each draft is considered on its own merits, see other stuff exists. As this is a volunteer project, it is possible to get inappropriate articles by us. That does not mean more inappropriate articles should be included. If you truly feel that this journal meets the criteria, you should discuss why with the reviewer. 331dot (talk) 16:31, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Profiles of the journal on websites such as Google Scholar, CFMS, and Publons do not show any notability. Same with pages from its own website. I don't care about how other articles look and those articles should probably be nominated for deletion. SL93 (talk) 20:56, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I guess I am trying to figure out how and when an academic journal would ever meet the criteria unless there was some sort of media scandal with the editors or something. Journals feature other peoples' work, and rarely get featured themselves. If you (or anyone) could point me in the right direction, that would be great! Hickeygamez (talk) 15:18, 17 December 2020 (UTC)