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= December 24 =

09:24:41, 24 December 2020 review of draft by Mmmm1362
Can a professional editor create an information box for my article?

Mmmm1362 (talk) 09:24, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Since you also posted this on my talk page, I respond here: I'm not comfortable helping to build an article that I feel is a promotional vanity piece. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:27, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

11:33:53, 24 December 2020 review of submission by Thisisdevrishi
Thisisdevrishi (talk) 11:33, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

15:08:25, 24 December 2020 review of draft by EHildy
1) Reviewer, Robert McClenon, seems to think citations to the Internet Speculative Fiction Database are insufficient. Yet the Internet Speculative Fiction Database has been cited myriad times in Wikipedia with other science fiction authors and artists (that's how I learned about it). I could list many, many examples. ISFDB references actual, extant hard-copies of publications and magazines. It doesn't get much more empirical than that. Must I bring in all the paper hard copies and place them on Mr. McClennon's desk? Because that would probably be a real headache for both of us. Seriously though, if a previously used, proven citation source of Wikipedia ITSELF isn't sufficient, then what would be a sufficient reference in this context? What else would satisfy you? 2) Disambiguation page has been altered to say "Terry Lee (author)." This is incorrect. It should say, "Terry Lee (artist)." How do I fix that? EHildy (talk) 15:08, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Being listed on www.isfdb.org does not confer any notability whatsoever. You need to demonstrate that the subject meets one of our relevant notability guidelines, such as the General Notability Guideline which requires subjects to have received significant coverage from multiple reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Significant coverage = in-depth writing about the subject, not passing mentions, and not mere listings. Theroadislong (talk) 16:46, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

16:34:57, 24 December 2020 review of submission by Edgaras1458
Edgaras1458 (talk) 16:34, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

17:02:38, 24 December 2020 review of submission by Edgaras1458
Edgaras1458 (talk) 17:02, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft was rejected it had zero independent sources and no indication that the topic was notable. Theroadislong (talk) 17:10, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

17:41:06, 24 December 2020 review of draft by Digital World space
I had add refrence as wikipedia told me to add refrence and I added refrence. Is now my wikipedia draft will pass or not

Digital World space (talk) 17:41, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft contains zero reliable sources to indicate that the subject is notable. -- Kinu t/c 17:44, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

18:52:20, 24 December 2020 review of submission by CesareBrizio
When I still wasn't autoconfirmed, I submitted another draft (Draft:Edwin Foresman Schoch) via the "articles for creation" process.

I recently repeated the submission after improving the draft, and now Draft:Edwin Foresman Schoch is pending review.

Today, another draft of mine was accepted, and I learned that now I'm autoconfirmed and I can create the articles by myself.

Is there a way for me to revoke my submission for review of the draft about Edwin F. Schoch, so that I can get back in control of that draft and bypass the "articles for creation" process?

Thank you for your advice!

CesareBrizio (talk) 18:52, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You can technically skip the submission process by moving the draft to article space and then removing the AfC notices, as well as activating the categories, however, I would not recommend it at this point. Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:00, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. I'll wait for the outcome of the AfC process. Merry Christmas! CesareBrizio (talk) 19:02, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merry Christmas also for you. Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:04, 24 December 2020 (UTC)


 * While technically an autoconfirmed user can create articles in live space, I don't recommend that for new editors. The chief issues that new editors have is with identifying reliable sources and establishing that our notability guidelines are met. Understanding these things typically requires a little experience. If you go through the AFC process and the article is moved to live space, it will be far likelier to survive. If a new editor builds in live space, their work can quickly draw the attention of other editors, who may nominate it for deletion. If it is deleted, it will be more difficult to convince the community that a new article about the same subject in in better shape than the previous version, and the stigma of a prior deletion could result in a speedier deletion. Regards and Merry Christmas. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:40, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for your insightful comments. In fact, my only article was published via AFC, and I will definitely wait for the review of my draft about Edwin F. Schoch within the AFC process. Best, CesareBrizio (talk) 19:49, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

22:15:39, 24 December 2020 review of draft by HurricaneTracker495
After 2 weeks, why can't we put it in mainspace for now, add sources later? This was a big snowstorm and we can always use Cn if needed. Hurricane Tracker 495 22:15, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * One could also argue that since it's already over, there's no longer a hurry to add it to mainspace. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:22, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Tbh, do you think its necessary to have or should be merged back/WP: MFDed? --Hurricane Tracker 495 22:25, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

23:31:30, 24 December 2020 review of submission by Edgaras1458
Edgaras1458 (talk) 23:31, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

23:35:25, 24 December 2020 review of submission by Neoknght
It was said that this is a blatant promotion. I am attempting to state the company and its quotes as well as products without sounding advertising similar to that of PepsiCo. Please provide feedback on where you thought it was blatant promotion and I will modify it.

Neoknght (talk) 23:35, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , in my opinion, your draft is an advertisement for a run-of-the-mill small business that does not come anywhere near meeting Wikipedia's notability guideline for companies. You must provide much better references. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  06:17, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

23:58:01, 24 December 2020 review of submission by Neoknght
Many changes made to remove possible content that violated the original rejection. Neoknght (talk) 23:58, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , this still sounds promotional, you're lucky the draft wasn't speedy deleted from the start. Regardless of those issues, I am doubtful this company is notable for inclusion in this encyclopedia, articles need to summarise from multiple reliable, independent, secondary sources. Dylsss(talk contribs) 00:44, 25 December 2020 (UTC)