Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 December 3

= December 3 =

06:17:11, 3 December 2020 review of draft by Iamlillyk
Hello, I am trying to publish an article for the Wiki page titled, Draft:Montana Jacobowitz, but I keep getting a decline because of the references pages, is it possible if someone could correct this for me so that it could pass guidelines or help assist me as best as possible? Thank you.

Iamlillyk (talk) 06:17, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

07:21:47, 3 December 2020 review of draft by Shish Mohammad Jakaria
Shish Mohammad Jakaria (talk) 07:21, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question. 331dot (talk) 10:43, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

English version
So I am asking for an English version of Coup de Jarnac to be created so that people that know the word, but don't understand French can read it. Is there anyone that can do this?Volcannon (talk) 01:15, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

10:52:01, 3 December 2020 review of submission by Ammy666
Ammy666 (talk) 10:52, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

You don't ask a question. 331dot (talk) 15:37, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

11:35:14, 3 December 2020 review of submission by AJMonWiki
The content of my submission does not meet the minimum standards for inline citations. Please could you tell me if this means there are not enough citations (i.e. not enough of the content has verifiable references), or that the citations it does include have not been formatted correctly. If the former, should I reduce the article length so that only verifiable content is included? Thank you for your help.

AJMonWiki (talk) 11:35, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The former, and yes, if you can't find any usable sources for them. We require every single claim to either be sourced to a strong secondary source or outright removed. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 13:09, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

12:55:50, 3 December 2020 review of submission by AliOlaide
What can I do to make my page go through? AliOlaide (talk) 12:55, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * In order to demonstrate notability, you will need to provide multiple references to in-depth articles written about you in unrelated, independent journals, magazines, books or online. Any article should be based on them alone, we have no interest in what you want to say about yourself. Theroadislong (talk) 13:08, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

13:23:11, 3 December 2020 review of submission by Tiguras
In the original submission, none of the work was properly referenced, so I have added links to the various projects and shows. Thank you.

Tiguras (talk) 13:23, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * A link isn't a reference. See Help:Referencing for beginners for how to actually create references. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 13:26, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

13:32:40, 3 December 2020 review of draft by IMuelller
Dear Wikipedia people, we would like to know whether we can describe a phenomenon on wikipedia with the set of sources available below, or whether we can't because the phenomenon has not gained enough attention by other sources yet.

We wrote an article on a phenomenon in the international facilitation and do-it-yourself-projects scene that we deem interesting enough to be on wikipedia, without wanting to promote anything. There is a subset of facilitators organising around the term „Art of hosting“, that, based on specific assumptions, organise processes in specific ways. They organise around that theme for at least the last 20 years now (and have developed interesting principles for adressing social challenges as come with climate change or poverty or…)

When we wrote the article, some people were veery concerned to only use science quotes in order to get accepted. Now, we got the review that we should not quote original research.

(„This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner.")

I can see the point about the tone and we're about to change this.

The thing about sources is: that there aren't so many. - there is the documents by the community itself (abundant grey literature, websites) - some books by individuals from that community - webpages by individuals - a bunch of scientific articles

… but are all not „secondary, reliable sources“, are they? So is the phenomenon just too small to be talked about in wikipedia, if there is no such secondary literature by non-practitioners yet? How should we handle that?

For full disclosure: some people in our author collective use the approach themselves, but having other jobs none of us earns their living with that. So our intention is not to advertise, but to make something interesting and helpful more transparent to the world. We assumed that this should be possible.

Best Imu IMuelller (talk) 13:32, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * By the read of it, the sourcing isn't so much the issue as the tone - aside from the concerns it was essaylike, the reviewer also expressed a concern that it mutated into promoting an associated website that seems to have usurped the generic phrase. I tend to agree with him - the article reads like an advertising brochure, and is practically crammed with buzzwords. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 13:45, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

16:15:40, 3 December 2020 review of submission by Francisjk2020
Hi, Please could you take a look at the draft. No one seems to be reviewing it. I have incorporated all compliance changes as suggested by Wiki administrators. Thank you for your consideration. (Francisjk2020 (talk) 16:15, 3 December 2020 (UTC)) Francisjk2020 (talk) 16:15, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The article was declined in October because the reviewer didn't feel that you had done enough to establish that the company met our notability guidelines. See WP:GNG and WP:NCORP. Since then, you haven't done much to address this issue beyond adding a single reference, deleting evidence that the draft had previously been declined, and that there had been a community discussion about the subject not being notable. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:57, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

18:49:07, 3 December 2020 review of submission by Satish Punewale(SP)
Satish Punewale(SP) (talk) 18:49, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You didn't ask a question, and you blanked the article draft. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:52, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

19:19:52, 3 December 2020 review of submission by CanAge2020
Why was my CanAge page rejected? We are a new nonprofit. Can I still edit the page as I wasn't finished? CanAge2020 (talk) 19:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not allow advertising or "spreading the word" about a brand. Also, Wikipedia is not here to help your noble cause. Victor Schmidt (talk) 21:06, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

23:37:07, 3 December 2020 review of draft by 97.83.218.39
An avid fan of Dead Meat like I am needs to have James on this wiki along with the other popular youtubers.

97.83.218.39 (talk) 23:37, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Request on 23:46:52, 3 December 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Kiraly17
Hello and thank you. This regards the draft for "Gabriel T Rozman". I have several questions as follows: (1) when editing a draft, how do I save my work if I am not yet ready to publsih? I have just lost 2 hours work (but fortunately printed beforehand so all is not lost). How do you save a draft, then go back later and continue working on it before finally publishing ? (2) how do I tag for review my draft submission ? I pressed the "tag" button, but an AFC template box appeared with text already in the multiple and number white text boxes ? (3) I would like to get input on my draft to improve its chances of being accepted. I understand the comments made at the last rejection and I am working to build out more, but would still like an experienced user to make suggestions. (4) finally, I need help with inserting a photo. I have read the help text and have tried to google the info, but when I insert the photo according to the instructions as I understand them, the photo is inserted in the middle of a random paragraph of the draft!

many many thanks and look forward to hearing back soon.Kiraly17 (talk) 23:46, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Kiraly17 (talk) 23:46, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Your work is saved when you click "Publish changes". There is no requirement that you submit a final draft every time you click this button, so feel free to use it as often as you need. A greater item of importance, however, is that you really need to read our General Notability Guidelines and be sure that you are demonstrating that the subject has received "significant coverage (in-depth coverage, not passing mentions) by reliable sources (no blogs, no random websites. Major mainstream sources. See WP:RS) that are independent (no interviews, not the subject's website, not an article written by his spouse, etc.) of the subject". So far I don't get the sense that subject is notable. He sounds like a regular person who has had regular jobs. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, this article currently feels a bit too LinkedIn. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:20, 4 December 2020 (UTC)