Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 February 10

= February 10 =

00:24:15, 10 February 2020 review of submission by Sowamshe
I have added a line to my own web site from which I quoted several lines that are on the Wiki entry to clarify that I release any copyright provisions for this page only: http://sowamsheritagearea.org/wp/

None of the other lines that appear on Earwig's Copyvio Detector were copied from those sites; they are all original writing strictly by me.

This should clarify the copyright problems that were previously cited and allow the entry to be posted.

Sowamshe (talk) 00:24, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

00:45:49, 10 February 2020 review of submission by Sowamshe
Now that I think I've resolved the copyright of my own writing issue, I'd like to know why this entry is "contrary to the purposes of Wikipedia". It's a basic entry about an historic location that is cited frequently and that has no easily-found reference. I have researched information about this topic from hundreds of sources, the major ones of which are included in the references. My own extensive web site needs a Wiki reference as to many other Wiki sites that refer to "Sowams" but give not reference to it. We are in the process of building support for a National Sowams Heritage Area and would like to be able to define Sowams on Wikipedia. Doesn't that make sense?

Sowamshe (talk) 00:45, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Could you clarify who "we" is please? Wikipedia accounts are strictly for single person use. Theroadislong (talk) 08:07, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

I'm the only author on Sowamshe. The "We" refers to the collective efforts of dozens of people in East Bay Rhode Island who would like to establish a new National Heritage Area featuring Sowams. None of them are Wiki authors or contribute to the postings that I alone author. No one else is using or contributing to Sowamshe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sowamshe (talk • contribs) 15:33, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

02:04:14, 10 February 2020 review of submission by Johnpaterno
Hi, i am requesting to review this article. Jonn Poker is indeed notable on social media. If googled his name you can see blog articles, social media links and more about him. One of the reason i am trying to get this article published is because of the disambiguate information that is between Jonn Poker and the word Poker itself. When searched on google, you can find other links to things that not necessarily connect with him but most importantly Jonn Poker gets linked to people such as JOHN CYNN who are poker players. This is not fair and people searching for "Jonn Poker" should find more content about him and not other people. I am therefore requesting a second look to the subject in question with the hopes that i could convince you guys to accept this article. Johnpaterno (talk) 02:04, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * We have no interest in what Google searches turn up, your draft has been rejected because the subject is not notable, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube are not reliable sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theroadislong (talk • contribs)

04:55:24, 10 February 2020 review of submission by Dileshwar Singh Patil
Hi,  User:Creffett edited the article Draft:Big Boy Toyz per this revision, placing COI and Notability tag while I had fully disclosed WP:PAID and surprisingly has recently also been rejected as being not notable, when it passes WP:NCORP. I believe I'm being treated harshly and ufairly here... Not to mention the other editor User:Lapablo as well, who has been ignoring my pingings per [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dileshwar_Singh_Patil#Last_Warning!!! this discussion] with regards to the other article Draft:Daniel Etim Effiong in terms of disclosure. I'm coming on here to hear from other editors who are more experienced and not bias about WP:PAID (pinging as he/she is one of the admins active on the Help Desk) Dileshwar Singh Patil (talk) 04:55, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note. The author refused to make disclosure of WP:PAID violation after several warnings and attempt of moving page to mainspace without allowing go through AFC process. Disclosure was made just recently on the 8th of February among 2 other articles which author has created. Lapablo (talk) 09:41, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: Lapablo, there's still YOUR undisclosed payment tag on Draft:Daniel Etim Effiong. I don't think I'm the one who's supposed to remove it since you are the one who had initially placed it there (and I think the right procedure would be for you to be the one who removes it) - After all I've disclosed :( Regards Dileshwar Singh Patil (talk) 15:32, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

08:02:57, 10 February 2020 review of submission by Malvineous
This article has been rejected because there aren't enough secondary sources and despite including some drawbacks and limitations in the article, apparently it reads like an ad. Unfortunately because the article covers a proprietary protocol, there isn't much around in the way of secondary sources as it seems to have only recently been made public. It's also very difficult to change the tone when you are basically just describing the capabilities right off the protocol spec.

I have been working to try to understand this protocol as it's used by a device I own, and I want to be able to control it with open source software (of which there is none). I was surprised that Wikipedia had no mention of the protocol given that apparently it's used by many thousands of devices in the professional audio world. I thought I would be able to fill that gap by trying to document what the protocol is and actually does, but now I'm being told that it's not notable and apparently Wikipedia would prefer to have no information about it at all? I must confess I don't really understand why no information is preferable to knowing what something actually is, especially when at the start of this exercise it took me quite a while to dig through all the press releases and marketing fluff to work out what this thing actually does and does not do.

Would someone be able to offer some advice as to whether this sort of article even stands a chance of being included? I've already spent a lot of time digging through the spec sheets so I could put the most relevant info into the article, but if it's just going to get canned regardless then it's better that I don't waste any more time on it. Looking at pages like Midas XL8 and GSIF I don't really understand why they are allowed in but this one with more detail and more references isn't? What do those pages have that I haven't put in this one?

I'm happy to take specific constructive criticism on board, but being told "oh it sounds a bit like an ad" is much too vague to be helpful.

Malvineous (talk) 08:02, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * If there are few independent reliable sources with significant coverage of this protocol, it would not merit an article on Wikipedia at this time. No amount of editing can change that.  It is considered to be an "ad" because it does little more than describe the product and its features- Wikipedia articles must do more than that- summarizing what independent reliable sources say about it. 331dot (talk) 12:56, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Request on 08:38:54, 10 February 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by 134.0.196.182
Dears in Wikipedias, im trying to upload an article about Majlis Al Dawla in Sultanate of Oman but your team reject it and the reason was the article already exists in Wikipedia by name Council of Oman (as they said), i would like to inform you that are so any different between them Council of Oman contain both of Majlis Al Dawla (State Council) and Shora Council So Majlis Al Dawla has own privacy and im trying to upload an article which contain detailed information about it.

Please help me to do that to publish cultural information about Majlis Al Dawla to the people.

Best Regards Salim

134.0.196.182 (talk) 08:38, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

12:43:21, 10 February 2020 review of submission by Nicola.Weissner
Hello, I'm requesting assistance, as my draft was declined and I was invited to discuss about it here by User:DGG. Could you pleaase tell my, why the article got declined and what I can do to improve quality? Thank you very much! Nicola.Weissner (talk) 12:43, 10 February 2020 (UTC) Nicola.Weissner (talk) 12:43, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I would first ask if you are associated with Hemmersbach in some way; if so, you will need to review and comply with the conflict of interest and paid editing policies(the latter is a Terms of Use requirement if you are an employee or otherwise paid).
 * Your draft was declined because its citations are either primary sources or brief mentions of this organization. Wikipedia requires significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources in order to establish that the company meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company. 331dot (talk) 12:53, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

14:19:57, 10 February 2020 review of draft by Gamorosia
I have in line citations but this article was declined. Do I need to add footnotes and if so how do I do that? I have read the referencing guidelines and don't see that functionality in my page.

Gamorosia (talk) 14:19, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , we need both. The citation in the text just points to the full information, which should be in the footnote at the end. At the moment, there isn't enough information for us to find the reference.
 * We typically use templates to do this for us - see user:Nick Moyes/Easier Referencing for Beginners, or if you want to use Harvard referencing Template:Harvard citation documentation.  Alex Noble    - talk  14:24, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * We typically use templates to do this for us - see user:Nick Moyes/Easier Referencing for Beginners, or if you want to use Harvard referencing Template:Harvard citation documentation.  Alex Noble    - talk  14:24, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

15:13:27, 10 February 2020 review of submission by Sowamshe
Why does Robert McClenon say that Draft:Sowams is contrary to the purposes of Wikipedia? The entry is a simple description of a 17th century place name that appears in other Wiki pages (Warren, Rhode Island). The name has historic significance and is cited in primary and secondary sources about Plymouth Colony. I don't understand his objection. Sowamshe (talk) 15:13, 10 February 2020 (UTC) Sowamshe (talk) 15:13, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Please read the explanation left on the draft. It goes into more detail than what you saw.  JTP (talk • contribs) 16:07, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

16:10:21, 10 February 2020 review of submission by Ajnk1234
Good morning -- just wanted to flag that this entry has been updated with suggestions made by the help desk. Thanks in advance!

Ajnk1234 (talk) 16:10, 10 February 2020 (UTC)


 * - I've submitted it on your behalf, as I feel it does warrant a second review with the additions/removals Nosebagbear (talk) 12:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

20:02:54, 10 February 2020 review of draft by LukeLovesEditing
I need help collecting references and critical reception for my draft that I am writing on Louis Armstrong's all time greatest hits. Tsunami307 (talk) 20:02, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

22:19:00, 10 February 2020 review of submission by PapayaWiki105
Hi -

I'm requesting a re-review because the current submission for QC's wikipedia page is not dissimilar to other production/finance companies which have Wikipedia pages, and I have added links below to the pages for the similar companies. The latest submission was rejected in December, and I haven't heard back from @SamHolt6 since then. It is now February, and I truly would appreciate any further guidance or an explanation as to why the QC Entertainment Wikipedia page draft is not adequate.

Scott Free Productions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Free_Productions

Original Film https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_Film

MonkeyPaw Productions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkeypaw_Productions

In short, production/finance film companies should absolutely be presented on Wikipedia. QC Entertainment is a premier company in entertainment.

I look forward to any and all responses.

Appreciate the help.

Thanks, Okey

PapayaWiki105 (talk) 22:19, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The fact that other poor quality articles exist is not a good reason to create more. Theroadislong (talk) 22:22, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * You have also said "I work for QC Entertainment. As a full-time employee of QC Entertainment, one of my many job responsibilities is to create a Wikipedia page for the company. I do apologize for the repeated submissions for QC's Wikipedia page - but it is the company's desire to have a Wikipedia page, as we believe it will enhance the company's profile." Wikipedia is not here to enhance your company's profile! Your draft has been rejected. Theroadislong (talk) 22:41, 10 February 2020 (UTC)