Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 January 15

= January 15 =

01:04:06, 15 January 2020 review of submission by Jancarcu
My article was declined for two main reasons: a lack of independent sources and NPOV issues. I understand the issue of the lack of independent sources, and I'm working on acquiring independent sources to help flesh out the article; this should also partially solve the NPOV issues, since having more independent sources could bring more balance. However, I think this article might benefit from a second pair of eyes to see if there are any fundamental issues with the organization and wording that could also be contributing to the NPOV problem.

Furthermore, much of the information I could find for the article comes from quasi-scholarly LDS-linked sources, including LDS-linked journal articles. There does exist a research paper in Chinese that could be helpful, but it's behind a paywall. This, to me, looks like it could be a WP:Notability issue as well. I think that Mormonism in China is a significant enough topic that, based on editorial judgment alone, it should, at least eventually, get an article. But if this is not notable, such an article would have to be published after the academic community has generated a sufficient quantity and quality of citations. I currently think that there is sufficient coverage in third party sources to justify an article in which due weight is set by third party sources, with LDS sources being used to fill in undisputed facts and figures if necessary. Jancarcu (talk) 01:04, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

08:19:59, 15 January 2020 review of submission by BrandonLorenzoHoward
BrandonLorenzoHoward (talk) 08:19, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

08:35:15, 15 January 2020 review of submission by PutriAmalia1991
my draft article for BTS Universe was being deleted, I wanna know the FULL details of the reason why my draft article was deleted the special girl is me (talk) 08:35, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It was rejected because it had no sources, which meant there was no way it could prove notability. Nosebagbear (talk) 12:04, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

what should I wrote to making my article more appealing? the special girl is me (talk) 13:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)


 * There is nothing you can do because Wikipedia requires sources. Read Notability. — HELL KNOWZ   ▎TALK 14:39, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

09:03:35, 15 January 2020 review of submission by Duronto27
This is a Bangladeshi Game. Your lack of knowledge is preventing me creating an article. Also you blacklisted its title, which is pure racism. If you do not understand, let any Bangladeshi editor do the admin job. Duronto27 (talk) 09:03, 15 January 2020 (UTC) Duronto27 (talk) 09:03, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . The lack of independent, reliable sources, containing significant coverage of the game, prevents anyone writing an acceptable encyclopedia article about it. Contrast what has been written about it with the range and quality of sources available for Grand Theft Auto: Vice City. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:18, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Alternatively, if you want a Bangladeshi editor, you could go over to Bengali Wikipedia, where you may have better luck. Bkissin (talk) 20:12, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

15:45:28, 15 January 2020 review of submission by Webster023
Not sure why this has been tagged for speedy deletion, as far as i can tell there is no content in it which could be deemed advertisement and it's an article for an officially licensed TIGA nominated F1 mobile game with many millions of players, not some mobile title no-one would have ever heard of. The game is also referenced in numerous well known gaming publications like MCV, Gamasutra, Pocket Gamer and plenty others.

https://www.gamasutra.com/view/pressreleases/342430/BE_THE_BOSS_HUTCH_LAUNCH_F1_MANAGER.php https://www.pocketgamer.biz/news/70782/hutchs-first-formula-one-partnered-game-is-f1-manager/

I look at articles such as the below with significantly less content and valid sources and wonder why this is allowed to remain when the one i have submitted is under review and considered for possible deletion?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F1_Manager

Regards,

Webster023 (talk) 15:45, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . The request for speedy deletion is old news. It was a couple weeks ago, and deletion was declined because the draft was not promotional enough to be beyond all hope. Two subsequent reviews, however, found respectively that the draft failed to demonstrate notability, and that the topic is not notable. No amount of editing can fix that problem. Press releases, like the ones above, don't help establish notability. I agree with you that F1 Manager must be improved or deleted, and have tagged it accordingly. See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS to better understand the perils of mimicking random articles rather than following Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:38, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

15:48:44, 15 January 2020 review of submission by Mariedegournay
Thanks for reviewing Draft:Post-Finasteride_Syndrome. It was deemed to have "insufficient content" and the recommendation is to put it into the Finasteride entry.

As you may know, there are separate entries for Opioid use disorder and Alcoholism which are not incorporated into the articles for Opioids or Alcohol respectively. Moreover, from a commonsense point of view, a disorder resulting from a drug is not a property of the drug itself. It is a medical phenomenon that arises from taking the drug.

Another comment: the term "insufficient" is vague. This word means "not enough" which could mean any number of things, including simply "unsatisfactory." Can someone give objective criteria for "sufficiency"?

Adding a better example

See Antidepressant discontinuation syndrome. This is a very close analogy because Post-Finasteride Syndrome is linked to discontinuing Finasteride. So consider:

Antidepressant discontinuation syndrome is to Antidepressant

as

Draft:Post-Finasteride_Syndrome is to Finasteride

Mariedegournay (talk) 15:48, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

16:07:23, 15 January 2020 review of draft by WPisarnik
Hi AfC, you cleared my wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:UICR_Professional_Driver_World_Championship, thank you 1 Q - what copyright violation did I had?

was it the fags I had for each country?

Regards Walter Pisarnik

WPisarnik (talk) 16:07, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

17:04:04, 15 January 2020 review of submission by Ajnk1234
Good afternoon! Just want to flag that I updated the Wedding Spot entry with suggestions given to me by the help desk yesterday. I added more information and cited a handful of additional credible news sources.

Thanks in advance for your consideration!

Ajnk1234 (talk) 17:04, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

18:14:47, 15 January 2020 review of submission by MelissaSmith23
I am not sure why there were not enough citations. Ms. Cross's credits were verified with iMDb and Colony Theater citations, Her credits were tied to the specific episode on which her name appears, and the television show credits are verified by the productions. Personal and family information was taken from Cross's website and from iMDb. What else do you need, please? Most of her work is on past television shows, so the producers are retired or have passed away. I can contact one of the directors and a former SVP retired from NBC to verify the information if you wish. She has been in the industry for decades and I have met her on productions. What else can I do to improve the article? Thank you for your help. MelissaSmith23 (talk) 18:14, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . IMDb and Wikipedia, being user-generated, are not reliable sources and should not be used as references. IMDb is also indiscriminate, aiming to cover every person involved in film or television whether they are worthy of note or not. The website of Murphy Cross and an employer are not independent of her, so they don't demonstrate notability either. The claim of winning a Tony Award might meet WP:ANYBIO if it could be proven, but there are no matches on the Tony Awards website for "Murphy Cross" for any year or category. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:38, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

18:28:45, 15 January 2020 review of draft by Egekorkan
I have revisited the draft to increase the coverage of the references. I would like ask for feedback if it got indeed better to qualify for a Wikipedia article. I think that the main issue was that nearly all of the references were websites of the World Wide Web Consortium where the standard also belongs to. With the added references it should be clearer that there is a wider interest in the Thing Description. I think that Thing Description does need a Wikipedia article, similar to HTML where the standard is explained in a more encyclopedia style, rather than difficult to understand standard's document.

Egekorkan (talk) 18:28, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

18:43:49, 15 January 2020 review of submission by Dksmit11
Dksmit11 (talk) 18:43, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Your autobiography has no sources whatsoever, so we have no way of knowing if you pass the notability guidelines. Theroadislong (talk) 20:41, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

20:32:37, 15 January 2020 review of submission by 2603:300C:613:C000:1C6F:6088:4CA9:A998
I appeal the reason for denial.

contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia - Dr. Dana Carson is specialized church leader with 35 years of experience which must be listed, it builds to the credibility of him

not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia - Information must be verified and over 40 links were provided that were outside the organization to assist with the verification process.

As I researched other church leaders that have a wikipedia page, Dr. Dana Carson's page has more information that could be verified and has more credibility than some of the other church leaders listed.

2603:300C:613:C000:1C6F:6088:4CA9:A998 (talk) 20:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The draft is full of unsourced and poorly sourced puffery, seeking to praise Dana Carson, his own website is not a suitable source and Tripadvisor is not a reliable source for anything. Theroadislong (talk) 20:39, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

21:22:29, 15 January 2020 review of submission by COIweizhou
His company employs over 5,500 people and contracts with various governments. Can I use other media sources as citations? Is local media considered inadequate? COIweizhou (talk) 21:22, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , Local media is generally inadequete. While it can provide supporting info, it cannot usually show notability. Most moderately important people have been written up in their local papers at least once. But to have encyclopedic notability, you generally need to have been picked up by a national news outlet. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 23:57, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

21:25:38, 15 January 2020 review of submission by Silvinaf
I rewrote the article to be more neutral. The company is an important part of the Bulgarian IT sector and I think it should be included.

Silvinaf (talk) 21:25, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , It is still enormously promotional. The very structure needs to be changed. But the real issue here is that it is not notable. No amount of editing can fix that. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 23:55, 15 January 2020 (UTC)