Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 January 23

= January 23 =

10:57:19, 23 January 2020 review of draft by Rathee nag
Rathee nag (talk) 10:57, 23 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Previous comments on the draft have not been addressed. Do you have a specific question? — HELL KNOWZ   ▎TALK 18:40, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

11:15:40, 23 January 2020 review of draft by HP7wiki
I am requesting help as I don't know specifically what I have done wrong or how i can better the article in order for it to be published. Could i please get additional help and guidance as I am confused. HP7wiki (talk) 11:15, 23 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi . The bulk of any article should come from sources independent of the subject. Fourteen of the draft's eighteen sources are the company's website or YouTube channel. Three more are from an organization that partnered with them. Novice editors are commonly advised to cite at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources that contain significant coverage of their topic. The draft cites only one. So you need to find at least two more, throw away the text you've written, and rewrite the draft using the independent sources.


 * Also, the only independent source so far, https://asianmediaawards.com/, fails verification. That page doesn't say DESIblitz.com won the Best Website Award at the UK national Asian Media Awards for 2013, 2015, and 2017. Possibly you can find a deeper link on that site that does support the claim. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:48, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Thank you ever so much for your help, I will take your help and advice on board, rewrite the draft, include better independent links and deeper ones where possible! — Preceding unsigned comment added by HP7wiki (talk • contribs) 12:44, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

12:58:58, 23 January 2020 review of draft by Saharraz98
I am requesting for an update on my re-review, published about 3 weeks ago. Thank you.

Saharraz98 (talk) 12:58, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Please be patient, drafts may take five months or longer at this point to be reviewed.  JTP (talk • contribs) 15:33, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

14:27:28, 23 January 2020 review of draft by Tlaserx
I'm requesting help because I have two questions. I am a published author in the industry that I work in. Published in multiple industry magazines that are in print. So my Wikipedia edits typically revolve around the industry as a whole. However as I understand it, Wikipedia editors need to be broader in their choices for edits? I was encouraged to speak on more topics perhaps unrelated to the industry. Is that a requirement or is that more to prove I am not a shill for a particular company?

Next, one of the articles I wanted to create was about a new device in our industry that one of the manufacturers released. It has a US patent and is currently only sold by one company. How do I source and provide reference for the article without referencing the main page where the information on the device is contained? Any advice would be very appreciated. or even a link to some good training videos maybe? Sincerely, Tom... Tlaserx (talk) 14:27, 23 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Being in the industry isn't necessarily a conflict of interest, in fact many editors edit in the area they are most familiar with. As long as you don't write from your own knowledge or experience, but find sources to support things and don't cherry pick sources for a particular viewpoint. The problem is usually that people write thing they (think they) know as truth without bothering to cite their sources. And more often than not, they are actually wrong in subtle (using words like "most" instead qualifying the quantity) and not so subtle ways (not including another viewpoint or criticism).
 * For an article, at minimum, you need multiple independent reliable in-depth sources to establish notability. Manufacturer's site and patents are primary sources and won't do. Things like articles and reviews from reputable sources would be needed. — HELL KNOWZ   ▎TALK 18:37, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

16:50:28, 23 January 2020 review of draft by Kunigonde
I do not understand how to get my article from the user page where it seems to be currently to the sandbox for publication. NotTheFakeJTP wrote "We're sorry, but we cannot accept blank submissions. If in fact you did include text within the article, but it isn't showing, please make sure that any extra text above your entry is removed, as it may be causing it to hide and not be shown to the reviewer."

I do not understand what "extra text above your entry" means. The heading?? Thank you for your help!

Kunigonde (talk) 16:50, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft submission here User:Kunigonde/sandbox has no content. Theroadislong (talk) 18:08, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Is it the article on Tatjana Masurenko that is on your user page, User:Kunigonde? If so, someone can move it to a better location, such as User:Kunigonde:Tatjana Masurenko. This will create a redirect that you can then edit to make a user page, or simply to remove the redirect and give yourself a blank user page. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:37, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

22:08:38, 23 January 2020 review of submission by 2605:E000:1221:8C47:1066:B82C:8189:9D61
2605:E000:1221:8C47:1066:B82C:8189:9D61 (talk) 22:08, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Topic is not notable, fails WP:BAND. Theroadislong (talk) 22:17, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

22:27:43, 23 January 2020 review of submission by Jordan.miller296
Jordan.miller296 (talk) 22:27, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi David, you rejected a page I was trying to create last month on the basis of not relevant. Recently, the group in question crossed 100,000 streams and received mention in several online articles. I believe they're as relevant as many artists with pages. Given the new information, I ask you reconsider.

Thank you so much for all you do.


 * Hi . If you wish to communicate with a specific editor, use some type of notification template, as described at Help:Talk pages. The draft was rejected for being not notable. The number of streams is irrelevant to notability. If they've been written about in depth by multiple, independent, reliable, secondary sources, that could establish notability. But Google searches of web, news, and books for "Know Wonder" along with the name Taeleifi returns zero such sources, so there isn't much hope for the topic. If articles about other artists exist with such poor sourcing, they should be improved or deleted.


 * Go through WikiProject Albums/Sources, a list of sources Wikipedians have found useful in writing about albums and musicians. If you can show WP:THREE sources from that list, someone may be willing to reconsider the rejection. If not, try a different topic, we have over six million to choose from. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:05, 24 January 2020 (UTC)