Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 January 29

= January 29 =

09:52:55, 29 January 2020 review of submission by Bethany m m
I have removed all external lonks as instructed please publish article.
 * Sorry for the confusion. The reviewer meant that you should not put external links in text just as direct inline links and not full citations. Another user edited the draft and converted the links to how they should positioned, although they still need to be cited properly (title, date, author, publication, etc.). You did not have to remove the links after this. Sources are the most important part of the article. I restored these for you and added basic citation info. I removed primary sources. I have not looked through the rest. — HELL KNOWZ   ▎TALK 11:13, 29 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for clarifying and getting back to me, if you could please instruct next steps I would love to get this project moved along. I greatly appreciate your help.

10:20:11, 29 January 2020 review of draft by Illusiongroupsindia
Illusiongroupsindia (talk) 10:20, 29 January 2020 (UTC) Please help and review this, so I can submit this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Illusiongroupsindia (talk • contribs) 10:37, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , the article has not been submitted for review. Please use the "Submit this draft for review!" button to submit it.
 * However, first, the article is likely to be rejected in it's current state:
 * Biographies of Living People have stricter citation requirements, and the article really should have in line citations - see User:Nick Moyes/Easier Referencing for Beginners for how to do this with the correct templates.
 * Secondly, it seems to have far too much information, such as the list of countries they've worked in.
 * Thirdly, the style is incorrect for an encyclopedia. For example, He was always a very ambitious kid and dreamed early about becoming a top athlete and he is a great singer, actor, host, master of ceremony, he also called as a jack of all entertaining elements - we are an encyclopedia that stores what independent sources say about a topic, not a place to promote a topic.  Oxon Alex    - talk  12:35, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thirdly, the style is incorrect for an encyclopedia. For example, He was always a very ambitious kid and dreamed early about becoming a top athlete and he is a great singer, actor, host, master of ceremony, he also called as a jack of all entertaining elements - we are an encyclopedia that stores what independent sources say about a topic, not a place to promote a topic.  Oxon Alex    - talk  12:35, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Can you review it again, I just edited it many times and submitted it for review!

11:28:24, 29 January 2020 review of submission by ABRG72
Hello. I am wondering why this subject was deemed not worthy of a Wikipedia page. Dan Graziano is the only ESPN NFL analyst who is on multiple shows as both analyst and host and writes full-time for ESPN.com. No other ESPN NFL Insider writes for the website. Graziano has a large social media following (144K Twitter followers). Lastly, he is the only cast member of ESPN's NFL Live who does not have a Wikipedia page. Other ESPN personalities who are not regulars on any show have pages. Thank you for your consideration.

ABRG72 (talk) 11:28, 29 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Please read our notability guideline for people. Being on a TV show, writing web articles or books, or having Twitter followers are not indications of notability in the Wikipedia sense. High quality, independent, reliable sources do. As far as other ESPN personalities having articles, this is a WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument. Wikipedia is a big place and many articles were created before the Articles for Creation process started. The subjects of those articles may have more independent coverage than Mr. Graziano, or maybe their articles should be deleted. shoy (reactions) 18:01, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

11:59:03, 29 January 2020 review of draft by Wortmead
Hello, having spent some time revising the first draft biography of a living person based on the reviewer's suggestions, I am almost ready to resubmit. But an alert message shows that an article already exists about this writer – this BLP (containing two factual errors) appeared while my draft biography was undergoing initial review. My concern is that the revised biography will not be accepted because of the pre-existing biography about this writer? Is this a valid concern? Thank you. Wortmead (talk) 11:59, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Wortmead (talk) 11:59, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , You should merge the existing article and the draft. See WP:MERGETEXT for the instructions (ignore steps 3 to 7), but essentially you should copy the information that is in your draft but not the article, into the article itself - keep the best bits from each.  Oxon Alex    - talk  12:26, 29 January 2020 (UTC)


 * , Should I not resubmit the draft because it was initially refused? As a newcomer, I am unsure about getting straight into merging an existing article with a draft that was initially turned down... That seems a big ask. Thanks. Wortmead (talk) 12:34, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , you can resubmit declined drafts as many times as you want, as long as some changes have been made (although we can decline an article which only allows resubmission by a reviewer). However, it will be declined as an article already exists, and you will just be told to merge (the software wouldn't allow it to be accepted, as we can't have two articles with the same name).
 * I'd just follow WP:BOLD and merge it.  Oxon Alex    - talk  12:46, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ,Thank you for your advice; I will follow it and try for the best.Wortmead (talk) 12:53, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ,Thank you for your advice; I will follow it and try for the best.Wortmead (talk) 12:53, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

21:15:36, 29 January 2020 review of submission by Mmizeasrm
I just want our new ASRM page published. I am the communications manager at ASRM. I am legit. Mmizeasrm (talk) 21:15, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * pending paid editing disclosure, see User talk:Mmizeasrm. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:57, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * User:Mmizearsm - There are at least two problems. First, you said, on my talk page, that you are not being paid directly or indirectly for the article.  If you are receiving a salary from the American Society for Reproductive Medicine, you are being paid and are required to make the declaration.  The fact that your salary is not contingent on acceptance of the draft does not change your status as a paid editor.  Second, we already have an article on the American Society for Reproductive Medicine.  If you want changes made to it,  you should discuss them at the article talk page, Talk:American Society for Reproductive Medicine.  Articles for Creation is a procedure for the review of new articles, not for changes to or rewriting of existing articles.  Please make the required declaration, and then discuss your requested changes at the article talk page.  Robert McClenon (talk) 17:01, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

21:24:43, 29 January 2020 review of submission by John BG Johnson
John BG Johnson (talk) 21:24, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Please assist me to finish this page. Thank you.

21:46:20, 29 January 2020 review of submission by Lil young06
why cant i just put this on there for gods sake theres a guy on here just talking about his day fishing ad i cant put a actual thing on here just please my my life and let me have this Lil young06 (talk) 21:46, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , We only write about things that are notable and meet our policies. Your article seemed to be pure promotion, and was thus deleted. If you think it really should be included, leave a note on my talk page with at least 5 reliable sources that discuss the subject, and we can talk.
 * If there is an article about some guy fishing, show me where and I'll take care of it. But be careful about comparing your article to existing ones. Many of the articles on Wikipedia were created before we began the rigorous Article for Creation process. That means a lot of ...honestly junk articles were created, and many of them have slipped through the cracks. You can read more about the logical fallacies involved in article comparison at WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 04:15, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * If there is an article about some guy fishing, show me where and I'll take care of it. But be careful about comparing your article to existing ones. Many of the articles on Wikipedia were created before we began the rigorous Article for Creation process. That means a lot of ...honestly junk articles were created, and many of them have slipped through the cracks. You can read more about the logical fallacies involved in article comparison at WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 04:15, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

23:41:32, 29 January 2020 review of draft by Cflannigan1
How do I change the name of a page? There is a spelling error on the page name. Thank you. Cflannigan1 (talk) 23:41, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . On Wikipedia, one renames a page by moving it to a new name. To be able to move pages yourself, you must have made at least ten edits in article space. So far your only edits have been in the user space, draft space, and here at the help desk. If the page you want moved is a draft, don't worry about it. If a reviewer accepts the draft, they'll move it as part of the publication process. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:46, 30 January 2020 (UTC)