Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 July 16

= July 16 =

02:40:59, 16 July 2020 review of submission by Hgill77
Hgill77 (talk) 02:40, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Sir, I see so many pages of individual orthopaedic surgeons but wikipedia rejecting mine, though have lots of first to my name and achievements

Regards HS Gill Dr Harpreet singh Gill
 * Please read WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. Many articles on Wikipedia were created before we began this process. as we have over articles, it is nearly impossible to watch them all, and we can only act on things we know. As for your draft, it currently lacks any form of source for the information. Please note that Wikipedia does not publish original research nor do we interpret sources. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:46, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

05:08:19, 16 July 2020 review of submission by 112.133.236.63
112.133.236.63 (talk) 05:08, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * This submission lacks reliable sources that are independent of the subject and cover it in some depth. The subjects homepage is not independent. Google maps doesnt cover the subject. GitHub and other user-generated sites arent considered reliable]] in most cases. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:42, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

05:31:38, 16 July 2020 review of draft by 94.205.155.118
draft declined. Please let me know why and how to improve?

94.205.155.118 (talk) 05:31, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * there seems to be a script failure. it was declined for the following reasons:


 * Also, please make sure that you are logged in when you edit. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:40, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, please make sure that you are logged in when you edit. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:40, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, please make sure that you are logged in when you edit. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:40, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

06:52:22, 16 July 2020 review of submission by 103.105.236.226
Khota El rahala is one of the best tv series in Qatar it spread love for every country. 103.105.236.226 (talk) 06:52, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello. It appears that your submission to Articles for Creation was declined because it lacked reliable sources. Please note that Wikipedia requires third-party, independent sources for an article to be considered notable enough for inclusion in the encyclopedia. If you need further help on what sources could be considered reliable, please visit the help desk. Thank you. Eternal Shadow  Talk  04:13, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

07:09:33, 16 July 2020 review of submission by Ziyush
Created page for local leader with all link and proof, page is deleted because one reputed wikieditor don't know that person.i want to know that even reputed source have proof then why page is deleted? Ziyush (talk) 07:09, 16 July 2020 (UTC) Added youtube links as proof
 * Youtube and other social media are often not considered a reliable source. To further help you We need to know about which page you are talking about. Are you talking about...


 * Draft:Balbir Dutt
 * Tanuj Khatri ( Articles for deletion/Tanuj Khatri)
 * Or something completely different? Why was the page I created deleted? may also be of interest. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:28, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * i am talking about page Tanuj Khatri, we have added link of youtube video as well , but that is in Hindi language
 * Ah yes. It was deleted after Articles for deletion/Tanuj Khatri. The concerns were that the article did not indicated how this subject meets WP:GNG or WP:NPOL. As I said above, Youtube and other social media arent considered reliable and therefore cant be cited to establish notability. Since the page was deleted after a deletion dscussion, we cant restore the page via this noticeboard. If you would have to have this page restored, you would have to go to WP:Deletion review. There you would need to establish the notability of the subject. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:40, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Victor Schmidt i am not aware of deletion review, i can create a new page if you will approve it,i spent 2 days collecting information and creating detailed page and your editor takes 15 minutes to delete and that also without seeing that i have added  youtube video as proof. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ziyush (talk • contribs) 09:59, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * You've exhausted my patience, see WP:IDHT. I've already told you that youtube videos arent considered reliable in most cases. While I'm generally aware that creating a new article is very time-consuming, and its definetely not encouraging if articles get deleted, but we are running in circles. The article wasn't deleted in 15 minutes either. The nomination happened on 8 July 2020, the deletion today. So you had over 7 days to indicate how this meets WP:GNG or WP:NPOL. If you truely want, create a deletion review. Note that recreating the page will be seen as acting against consensus and is very likely to be met with a block. I am no longer willing to continiue this discussion. If another editor wants to continiue, please feel free to do so, but I'm done here. Victor Schmidt (talk) 11:03, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

09:05:18, 16 July 2020 review of draft by Sinjopk
Can you please help how to sort out the issue of my article, I think errror was happended in the article.Guide me how to solve the issues. Sinjo P K 09:05, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I have moved the ref for you and added more information so that the ref is less likely to suffer from Link rot. Howewer, this doesnt makes the draft acceptable. What the Draft currently needs are reliable independent sources that establish notability of that person. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:46, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

09:56:26, 16 July 2020 review of draft by Horatius At The Bridge
as per talk page - Can you assist with whether this markup highly cited is appropriate to use in WP:NACADEMIC # 1 below?

Horatius At The Bridge (talk) 09:56, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Not required and its a kind of exaggeration only. I have made the corrections. ~ Amkgp  💬  15:34, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

11:09:11, 16 July 2020 review of draft by Hackasaur
Why is there 2 lines of 'AfC submission' showing in the source of my draft?

does this mean I have accidentally submitted the draft twice? could that be a problem? Hackasaur (talk) 11:09, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * No, not at all. The difference between the two templates is the t after the first pipe (|). As long as you dont have two lines on your draft that start with, everything is fine. Victor Schmidt (talk) 11:13, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

13:37:46, 16 July 2020 review of draft by Rhodium66
Good afternoon! I have a question concerning my draft of an article on Wikipedia about my Father - Pomogailo Anatoliy (famous Russian scientist). The point is that my draft article has been declined for the following reason: "Cite error: There are tags on this page without content in them". However, all the reference tags in my draft article do have content in them - they contain information about articles in the form of "DOI". "DOI" or "Digital Object Identifier" is a string of numbers, letters and symbols used to permanently identify an article or document and link to it on the web. For example, this tag also contains DOI: https://doi.org/10.1070/RC2011v080n03ABEH004079 DOI contain information about the articles mentioned and written by my Father. So, I do not understand why my draft article has been declined because tags in it do really contain the necessary information. Do I need to delete them in order to have this draft article published? I have seen quite a lot of articles with DOI tags in them, siilar to mine.

Thank you. Looking forward to your reply.

Kind Regards, Rhodium66

Rhodium66 (talk) 13:37, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Good afternoon! I have a question concerning my draft of an article on Wikipedia about my Father - Pomogailo Anatoliy (famous Russian scientist). The point is that my draft article has been declined for the following reason: "Cite error: There are tags on this page without content in them". However, all the reference tags in my draft article do have content in them - they contain information about articles in the form of "DOI". "DOI" or "Digital Object Identifier" is a string of numbers, letters and symbols used to permanently identify an article or document and link to it on the web. For example, this tag also contains DOI: https://doi.org/10.1070/RC2011v080n03ABEH004079 DOI contain information about the articles mentioned and written by my Father. So, I do not understand why my draft article has been declined because tags in it do really contain the necessary information. Do I need to delete them in order to have this draft article published? I have seen quite a lot of articles with DOI tags in them, siilar to mine.

Thank you. Looking forward to your reply.

Kind Regards, Rhodium66
 * That was not the reason for the decline, the reason was "references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject" I have fixed the ref problem for you, you had to stray ref brackets with no content. Please be aware thatyou have a conflict of interest too. Theroadislong (talk) 14:33, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

14:42:34, 16 July 2020 review of draft by Danialhalim680
Hi there. The reson why I am here is because if I have submit my draft once, it rejects. Then, I make the corrections and submit it back, will my Wikipedia draft page removed if I’m rejected again? Thanks! Danialhalim680 (talk) 14:42, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , as long as you continue to make the improvements suggested you will have the chance to improve the draft until one of two things happens:
 * it is accepted
 * You fail to prove that it is notable (See WP:N) and it is rejected. Even then you have the chance to say why you feel it should be considered further
 * Hope this helps Fiddle   Faddle  14:47, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

15:46:13, 16 July 2020 review of submission by Cari Cano
This is a notable subject with a large number of "published, reliable, secondary sources" (published journal articles) that are independent of the subject, and these sources are referenced in-text. I'm confused as to why it was it denied? Cari Cano (talk) 15:46, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Currently Draft:Carey_E._Priebe consists mostly of long lists of publications of various kinds by Priebe. Ad these are written by Priebe they are not independent sources What is needed is citations to writings by others and about Priebe.
 * My advice would be to remove most to the listed publications. Retain up to, perhaps a dozen, certainly no more, of the most significant of his work, particularly if they are often cited by others. Find and cite perhaps three to five independent published reliable sources about Priebe, that discuss him or his work in some detail Read WP:NBIO and WP:NPROF and see that the article shows how he fulfills the criteria listed there, or some of them. Make it clear in the lead section what Priebe is most well-known for. Do not have the draft read like an academic CV or resume. Have a look at Ronald Hugh Barker as an example of a recently created article about a person in a computer-related field. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 16:58, 16 July 2020 (UTC) DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 16:59, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Request on 17:21:25, 16 July 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Kcmastrpc
This article was declined as having not enough notable secondary sources but there are several secondary sources that are widely accepted across hundreds of other software project pages.

InfoQ Packt O'Reilly

Why are these sources considered acceptable for these several hundred pages, but not Traefik?

— Kcmastrpc (talk) 17:21, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Kcmastrpc (talk) 17:21, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I personally saw it as non notable, per my comment, but I would like a second opinion from another reviewer. (Ping me when another reviewer has an opinion).  Eternal Shadow   Talk  17:46, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The discussion re: Notability has been moved to the Draft talk:Traefik — Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:58, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

17:44:12, 16 July 2020 review of submission by Wiki5885
Wiki5885 (talk) 17:44, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

❌ the draft needs secondary sourcing to assert notability, or it will keep getting rejected. Eternal Shadow  Talk  20:00, 16 July 2020 (UTC)