Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 July 18

= July 18 =

00:19:09, 18 July 2020 review of submission by AJuniorDeLaRosa
AJuniorDeLaRosa (talk) 00:19, 18 July 2020 (UTC) I wanted to create a Wikipedia page for an upcoming rapper, Aden Dinero but he is not big enough for the sources to be in newspapers or any other articles.
 * Wikipedia is not a place to write about "upcoming" musicians. A musician or rapper must have already arrived, so to speak, in order to merit an article.  They must be shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources to meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable rapper.  If they do not have significant coverage in reliable sources, they would not merit an article at this time. 331dot (talk) 00:39, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

11:17:58, 18 July 2020 review of submission by Sadiyanooraalam
Sadiyanooraalam (talk) 11:17, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , I see the draft has been rejected. That can be altered by your finding references for it and requesting a review of the rejection.
 * We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, and in WP:RS please. See WP:42. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact referred to, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the topic is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today. Fiddle   Faddle  11:24, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , I have left a further comment on the draft just now. Please read WP:REFB to help with your misunderstanding of references  Fiddle   Faddle  11:29, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

12:24:22, 18 July 2020 review of submission by MariaMorris1
Hi, when the page was accepted, it said that it was a C-class article, but when I click on it, it says start class. Has their been a mistake - I'm trying to improve my Wikipedia writing.

MariaMorris1 (talk) 12:24, 18 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi . Now that Sebastian Thiel is in article space, it is no longer in the scope of Articles for creation; we reviewers must turn our attention to the hundreds of other drafts that come in every day.


 * The change from C-class to to start-class is not a mistake, merely a difference of opinion between two editors. Most experienced Wikipedians would agree that it's one or the other. There's nothing wrong with being start-class. The shades of difference from start-class through B-class may be important to people editing the article, but are less important to the broader community than knowing simply that it's better than stub-class and not as good as GA. There is a tool, ORES that predicts article quality based on structural characteristics (it can't evaluate the quality of your writing). It estimates a 28.5% probability that the article is start-class, and a 26.6% probability that it's C-class.


 * The quality scale has general advice on how articles move up the ladder. I've left a basket of links on your talk page that may give you ideas about improvements to make, or how to improve some of our 6+ million other articles, most of which need just as much work. Spending time editing a variety of articles is one of the best ways to get ideas for betterments. Related projects, such as WikiProject London and WikiProject Film are another source of advice, as are peer reviews. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:52, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

14:58:49, 18 July 2020 review of submission by Sadiyanooraalam
Sadiyanooraalam (talk) 14:58, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

15:15:00, 18 July 2020 review of submission by Naked it
Naked it (talk) 15:15, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

What’s wrong with my biography please advise me

Request on 16:05:40, 18 July 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Chikukiri
Chikukiri (talk) 16:05, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

16:58:23, 18 July 2020 review of submission by KKVinci
KKVinci (talk) 16:58, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

17:36:54, 18 July 2020 review of submission by Ziad.awwad
I'd like to know how the page is serving a promotionary purpose? What should be done to enhance it? Ziad.awwad (talk) 17:36, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

17:54:50, 18 July 2020 review of submission by Ziad.awwad
Hello, removed all stuff that might be promotional and tried to be as unbiased as possible. Please advise on how to get approval? Ziad.awwad (talk) 17:54, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

21:30:35, 18 July 2020 review of submission by Mirfanelt
Mirfanelt (talk) 21:30, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Please read WP:NOTWEBHOST. Valid rejection and valid speedy deletion. Fiddle   Faddle  22:29, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

21:58:00, 18 July 2020 review of submission by Cyberlt
Here are the reasons that my draft of an article was recommended for speedy deletion.

-G11- Blatant Promotion. This is obvious. I will remove all offending content ASAP.

-G12- Copyright Infringement. My website was mentioned when G12 was given as a reason for "speedy deletion". MY WEBSITE!! What do I do when I am accused of copyright infringement on myself? I also have a trademark. Should I mention this somewhere also?

-"written by a user with a COI to this topic". What more can I do to resolve this issue? I disclosed that I was a coi when I started the article and I editted my user page by pasting this line of text in the edit box as requested. How is the best way to resolve this?

Cyberlt (talk) 21:58, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Despite your delayed COI awareness this draft is pure spam. I suppose you can argue that speedy deletion is slightly harsh since you have declared your interest, but the article is pure spam. WP:TNT is required here.
 * Start by finding your references. For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, and is in WP:RS, and is significant coverage. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact cited, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make a draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the person is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today.
 * Write your draft around your references.
 * Why you thought declaring a COI meant you could create an advert is unclear. Starting again seems like the best option Fiddle   Faddle  22:16, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , It seems to me that you need to declare paid editing not a simple conflict of interest. I have noted this with a notice on your talk page Fiddle   Faddle  22:24, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Why you thought declaring a COI meant you could create an advert is unclear. Starting again seems like the best option Fiddle   Faddle  22:16, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , It seems to me that you need to declare paid editing not a simple conflict of interest. I have noted this with a notice on your talk page Fiddle   Faddle  22:24, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , It seems to me that you need to declare paid editing not a simple conflict of interest. I have noted this with a notice on your talk page Fiddle   Faddle  22:24, 18 July 2020 (UTC)