Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 June 20

= June 20 =

08:43:17, 20 June 2020 review of submission by Rajeevrijal321
Rajeevrijal321 (talk) 08:43, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Rajeevrijal321 (talk) 08:44, 20 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Do you have a specific question? The reviewer left a comment for you on the draft. — HELL KNOWZ   ▎TALK 13:51, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

09:40:49, 20 June 2020 review of submission by RINCE ROY
RINCE ROY (talk) 09:40, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 09:46, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

14:24:03, 20 June 2020 review of submission by Vladjanicek66
Article rewritten with less obvious self publicism but no way to resubmit and despite asking the editor that rejected the page for help nothing more heard.

Vladjanicek66 (talk) 14:24, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The draft was rejected, not just declined, meaning that it will not be considered further as the reviewer felt that there was little to no chance it can be sufficiently improved to meet standards. 331dot (talk) 14:30, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

I just do not understand the issues with this draft, all the main points are covered by supporting links to references? I cannot see what is in this page that is so wrong? So basically a band formed of 2/3 of an original band that has its own fanbase, website, FB page and can verify its existence cannot have a wikipedia entry? In that case why are there so many similar very poorly created pages of other bands on Wikipedia?

Tell me what I have to do to get some clarity and fairness to get a page up on this band? It makes no sense.

Vladjanicek66 (talk) 14:38, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Please see other stuff exists. As Wikipedia is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate articles to go undetected and unaddressed, even for years.  Standards have also changed over the years so what was once appropriate may no longer be.  This is why citing other articles as a reason for yours to exist isn't usually a good argument, as those other articles could also be inappropriate. Feel free to point out some of these other articles that may also be problematic or tag them for possible improvement.
 * The key with your draft is that there does not seem to be independent reliable sources with significant coverage of this band that demonstrates how it meets the definition of a notable band. Interviews with band members do not establish notability as that is a primary source. 331dot (talk) 14:46, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

18:51:41, 20 June 2020 review of submission by Ashokreddy
Hi, this is regarding 'Dongalaku Donga' page. Unfortunately, for Telugu movies, particularly old ones, there aren't many references other than IMDB and You Tube. I did provide those as references. Not sure why this page isn't being approved. What else I need to do? I've seen many pages on Telugu movies, which are published with 'citations needed', why not the same rule apply for this page? Appreciate any assistance. THANKS

Ashokreddy (talk) 18:51, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * IMDB is not considered a reliable source on Wikipedia, as it is user-editable. YouTube is not often considered a reliable source(for the same reason). Sources do not need to be online(it helps, but is not required) as long as they are publicly available, such as a book in a library. 331dot (talk) 10:10, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

19:04:26, 20 June 2020 review of submission by Kconstalie
Hello. As requested, I have now added additional reliable references for clarity. Below is a link to the article. I have ensured that this informative article complies with Wikipedia's standards. I'll be grateful for your time in reviewing it and publishing it. Thank you! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Conduit_Magazine Kconstalie (talk) 19:04, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

20:35:19, 20 June 2020 review of submission by 2604:2000:1382:B94:5493:CEAB:C22C:888

20:35:19, 20 June 2020 review of submission by 2604:2000:1382:B94:5493:CEAB:C22C:888
I believe that actor Jacopo Rampini has enough film, television and theatre credits both in the United States and abroad (Italy and France) to justify the creation of his wikipedia page.

2604:2000:1382:B94:5493:CEAB:C22C:888 (talk) 20:35, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft was rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. Please see the comments from the reviewers. 331dot (talk) 10:08, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Request on 21:24:08, 20 June 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Sguo123
Dear Editor, thanks for your prompt review feedback. Please allow me to explain.

1) We have seen World Jutice Project which publishes "Rule of Law Index" online, which are carried in wikipedia. The global justice index is the first project in the world, which does not have presence in wikipedia. I hope you would believe it is a great valuable addition to the wikipedia.

2) This Global Justice Index is the first initiative and research project luanched by Fudan Institute for Advanced Study in Social Sciences (Fudan IAS), a non-western country, and it should enhance the diversity of profiles in wikipedia too.

3) This is an institutional effort to create a page in wikipedia, not by or for an individual. We are in a similar situation like the World Justice Project page created by the institution. If you look at the WJP page, you will see they also use their own material to publish the contents of the page, and equivalent to ours: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Justice_Project

4) As the director of the Fudan IAS, I can assure you that there is no copyright issue of the website material created by Fudan IAS global justice project. We created this website for the purpose of offering our research results to all readers around the world for free, thus we have never applied for the copyright, as we do not want the copyright to restrict readers to download, use or reuse our material around the world. You won't find the fact that this website is copyrighted if you search any database around the world. Its contents are free for distribution, and free of copyright infringement. We can declare so in certain ways if you can tell us how to declare so on the page in wikipedia, and add a statement on the page. I hope you would reevaluate and reconsider your decision to release this page to the readers.

If you have any further question, please do let me know. Thank you so much for your reconsideration.

Sguo123 (talk) 21:24, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The topic of copyright is huge. Generally material is under copyright by virtue of having been written. Text and other materials may be licenced to be used here by the owner of the material under one of many licences. Generally that onward licencing should appear on your own pages. We can't give you legal advice on the type of licence, but small research should solve that for you. Fiddle   Faddle  21:30, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * This article may give you some useful background information. IT is by no means the sole mechanism. Fiddle   Faddle  21:41, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . If you are the director of Fudan IAS, you should have the legal ability to release the text to us under an acceptable licence by contacting our copyright permission team, or by making such a release on your website. This will prevent your article from being deleted for copyright reasons, though you may still need to make further modifications to the article before it would be accepted. You can find instructions on how to grant such permission here. Alpha3031 (t • c) 12:33, 21 June 2020 (UTC)