Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 June 4

= June 4 =

00:13:11, 4 June 2020 review of draft by Jackie Kench
When I submitted the draft, it said I can't use sites such as Youtube for resources. However, the companies used as a resource don't put a lot of their work on their websites but on their Youtube channels instead. For example, I used the Bovis Homes company (which is a professional company) as a resource. When I went on their website, hardly any of their adds are on there but instead on their Youtube channel, so did Firebird Films, 4Ground Media, and many other professional companies. That doesn't make it any less professional, they purposefully wanted the advert made specifically for their channel. So, what do you do when professional companies do professional work strictly for their social media only?

I also put an Amazon link for books that are currently being sold, and I was told that that's not a reliable source. I put a link to the author's page where she is actually selling her books. That in itself is proof that she's selling books.

Even though she's done professional work, it's hard into today's world to find examples that are not linked to social media. I've attached better links but as I mentioned before, they're not directly linked to Madeline because the companies aren't putting them on their sites but on their channels instead, channels that I'm not allowed to use. So I haven't submitted because I have a feeling it'll be denied.

Jackie Kench (talk) 00:13, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state about subjects that are shown to meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability(such as the definition of a notable company or a notable person). If a subject is not written about significantly in independent sources, it would not merit a Wikipedia article at this time. Social media accounts are not independent sources. 331dot (talk) 09:46, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

02:11:15, 4 June 2020 review of submission by EditorF
EditorF (talk) 02:11, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

02:45:58, 4 June 2020 review of submission by 216.174.74.87
216.174.74.87 (talk) 02:45, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

05:25:08, 4 June 2020 review of draft by Jimavich
I was wondering how I find out which sources used do not meet standard - and if others have met the standard. Or if all my sources are inadequate Jimavich (talk) 05:25, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , Hi, well the first ref has some errors (see the red comments in the ref list) and the second one is self-published... you will need to correct this and perhaps add some more 2nd sources. CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:38, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

07:55:50, 4 June 2020 review of submission by Hakkeem11988
Hakkeem11988 (talk) 07:55, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft(which I've removed from here, the link makes putting it here unnecessary and disruptive to this page's formatting) was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about someone, and you have offered no independent reliable sources showing how the person meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. 331dot (talk) 09:44, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

09:39:53, 4 June 2020 review of draft by Princesse Marissa
dear all, kindly to advise how to improve my article so it can resubmitted and approved by wikipedia reviewer, waiting for your assistance. Princesse Marissa (talk) 09:39, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Princesse Marissa (talk) 09:39, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . I've commented on the draft. It doesn't look like there are independent, reliable, secondary sources that contain enough information about the subject to write an acceptable encyclopedia article. I recommend that you gain some experience as a Wikipedian before trying to start a new article. If you're especially interested in yacht clubs, try improving some of the articles contained in Category:Yacht clubs, none of which are very good. If you're primarily interested in Lebanese topics, check out WikiProject Lebanon for ways to help. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:05, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

10:24:02, 4 June 2020 review of submission by EditorF
EditorF (talk) 10:24, 4 June 2020 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:IGNITE_INDIA_EDUCATION can someone help me in drafting this article please
 * Hi EditorF, please have a close look at Help:Your first article ...especially how to add sources/references to your article via the Editor. CommanderWaterford (talk) 12:07, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

11:15:58, 4 June 2020 review of submission by Barpy
Can you please tell me what changes i have to make, to publish it. Barpy (talk) 11:15, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft was rejected, not just declined, meaning that it will not be considered further as it has little to no chance of being able to meet Wikipedia standards. Please understand that Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about something(like your website).  Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that has articles about subjects that have significant coverage in independent reliable sources, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability, in this case, the definition of a notable website.  Not every website merits a Wikipedia article.  In this case, you have offered no independent sources that have chosen on their own to write about your website in an in-depth manner(not just brief mentions, routine announcements, staff interviews, or other primary sources).  Please read Your First Article for more information.  If you just want to tell the world about your website, you should use social media or other alternative forum where that is permitted. 331dot (talk) 11:20, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

13:21:12, 4 June 2020 review of draft by PeterEasthope
I've added three reliable links to Draft:Yamfo_College_of_Health page. Also commented in the talk page. I'm not asking for official draft review at this time. Just an advice from an experienced editor. Thanks, ... PeterEasthope (talk) 13:21, 4 June 2020 (UTC) PeterEasthope (talk) 13:21, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft merely confirms that the college exists. Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage say about the college, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization.  The sources you have offered are just brief mentions that confirm the existence of the college. Please read Your First Article for more information. 331dot (talk) 13:27, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

13:43:05, 4 June 2020 review of submission by Pt8340
I have used press release as references. I didn't  know  Wikipedia. Don't accept  press release  as reference. I have  improve  this  page. please review it Pt8340 (talk) 13:43, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further as in the judgement of the reviewer there is little to no chance it can be sufficiently improved to meet Wikipedia standards. You are welcome to edit in other areas of the encyclopedia. 331dot (talk) 14:22, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

17:17:09, 4 June 2020 review of draft by Kangarolf
Hi there,

I am trying to get a new page cleared for a piece of volunteer management software that has been used a great deal in the UK to handle COVID 19 community volunteering. I copied the format for the SLACK page and included plenty of external and verifiable resources but the page got declined for being to advert like.

I'm looking for some more guidance on getting the page accepted as I think its a valid entry.

Thanks Kangarolf (talk) 17:17, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , Couple of things.
 * Lotta buzzwords, which is probably why it got tagged as an advert.
 * Remember that Wikipedia writes about its subjects from a neutral, and almost...uninterested perspective. There is a lot of phrasing here that reads promotional, such as "to to identify, train and deploy volunteers to support sport and physical activity within Manchester", which frankly should just say something like "Manchester has used TeamKinetic to support sports programs". Present the facts without presenting puffery.
 * No external links in the body, either move them to the end in a section titled "External links", turn them into references (if relevant) or remove them.
 * I'm not sure if this is notable. Only subjects which have received significant coverage from multiple reliable sources are able to be included in Wikipedia. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 17:51, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks CaptainEek (talk)

I've edited the post, removed all the external links and converted to refs where appropriate. I've also removed anything that cannot be externally referenced. I took out the whole features section as it was really only self referencing, though the Slack page did have this in.

Thanks for your help. I'll resubmit in a few days, if you have a chance to look again and post any comments I'd appreciate it. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kangarolf (talk • contribs) 09:21, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

17:22:43, 4 June 2020 review of submission by ZARAFSAEEQ
ZARAFSAEEQ (talk) 17:22, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

17:27:14, 4 June 2020 review of submission by Itsanupkumar
Hi, I have edited an article on Wikipedia. It is for someone I know and it is not an autobiography. Please help me place with this. Itsanupkumar (talk) 17:27, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Please help me place this article on Wikipedia. I have made several changes to content now, and it is not an autobiography.

Itsanupkumar (talk) 17:28, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Nuvola apps important.svg Please listen to other users' concerns and stop writing about Anup Kumar. If you continue to add promotional or advertising material to Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 04:40, 5 June 2020 (UTC)