Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2020 June 6

= June 6 =

02:48:28, 6 June 2020 review of submission by Hasibromi
I think under the WP:RS non of the links that I have used were self published sources by Marcoof500. The links are independent sources which deem them reliable. Even under the WP:RS it states that Wikipedia itself is not a reliable source. Hasibromi (talk) 02:48, 6 June 2020 (UTC)== 04:35:37, 6 June 2020 review of submission by Shreyastyagi1 ==

Shreyastyagi1 (talk) 04:35, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

04:35:37, 6 June 2020 review of submission by Shreyastyagi1


 * First of all, writing about yourself is strongely discouraged here. Further, Wikipedia is not a social network like Facebook or Instagram. As for Draft:Shreyas_Tyagi:


 * It currently has zero reliable sources that are independent of the subject.
 * https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Jeannie_Aur_Juju is a Wiki and unacceptable due to WP:USERG
 * www.imdb.com is not considered reliable for the same reason
 * is not accepted as it is not independent of the subject (see link above).
 * Since there are zero reliable sources, the draft currently fails Wikipedia's notability criteria, in this case the one for actors.
 * The draft currently has very little content. A small biography, even if it is only a few sentences, is always possible.
 * My Tips for you:
 * Google doesn't show something up that looks promising, so I suggest waiting a few or even a dozen years. In most cases, reliable topics get an article rather fast. Please note that a Wikipedia article might not nessesarely desireable.
 * Assuming that you are the person in the Draft, you are younger than 18 and therefore should read Advice for younger editors. Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:22, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

06:30:42, 6 June 2020 review of submission by Thebadnewslive
I honestly don’t what else I can do for this article. There are loads of newspaper, magazine clippings, photos of races from the 80s and 90s which nothing is online as in that period because no-one had computers or the internet. I can only find references online of what people have bothered to upload. Is that the only thing that counts with Wikipedia. If it’s not online now, it’s not real???

Thebadnewslive (talk) 06:30, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Sources do not need to be online as long as they are publicly accessible(such as a magazine or newspaper in a library). As noted, it appears that the organization you wrote about does not meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization.  Sources, whether online or offline, must do more than briefly mention the organization or its activities.  Wikipedia articles must summarize only what independent reliable sources with significant coverage state about a subject.  That does not include brief mentions, routine announcements, press releases, staff interviews, or other primary sources.
 * Your draft was rejected, not just declined, meaning that it will not be considered further. If you truly feel that you can adhere to the standards I mention here and those at Your First Article, you will have to start over from scratch on a new draft.
 * If you are associated with this organization, you will need to review conflict of interest and paid editing. 331dot (talk) 10:05, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

So does this article need to be incorporated into another article? The organisation has been around for 50 years now and currently compiling a large book for the 50th anniversary documenting it's history. Members have been submitting all these old news and magazine articles, images and so forth for the book. None of this is in libraries, that I know of, it's just things people have kept over the years from the time. Have I got to put all this online as references just for a Wikipedia article? Thebadnewslive (talk) 11:09, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Please make follow up comments by editing this existing section, instead of creating new sections. Please read WP:CITE for information on citing sources, including those only in print.  As long as the relevant information is available to write a citation(publisher, author, date, etc.) you can cite a print newspaper article, as most newspapers and magazines are archived in libraries.  You don't need to put the newspaper clippings online.  331dot (talk) 11:18, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

08:37:26, 6 June 2020 review of submission by Mostafasafarian
I have edited citations and references, I've also edited the content to match wikipedia's criteria. Please re-review this article. Thanks in advance. Mostafasafarian (talk) 08:37, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft has been rejected, not just declined, meaning that it will not be considered further as there is little to no chance that it can be improved enough to meet Wikipedia standards. In this case, it appears that the person you wrote about does not meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable actor. 331dot (talk) 10:00, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

11:25:42, 6 June 2020 review of submission by SONGEZO SA
SONGEZO SA (talk) 11:25, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but your draft has been rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. It appears that the musician you wrote about does not meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable musician. 331dot (talk) 12:08, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

15:10:04, 6 June 2020 review of submission by Shraddhaaa1702
As I wrote a biography of myself it does not promote any thing in that Biography. please help why it got rejected. Shraddhaaa1702 (talk) 15:10, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Shraddhaaa1702, unfortunately no matter if you are promoting or not autobiography articles are not allowed on Wikipedia. Writing an autobiography on Wikipedia is an example of conflict of interest editing and is strongly discouraged. Have a look over here Autobiography. Regards, CommanderWaterford (talk) 15:16, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It isn't exactly correct that autobiographies are not allowed, but they are strongly discouraged. It is very hard to successfully write an autobiography.  In your case, Shraddhaa1702, your draft did little more than state your existence, and had no independent reliable sources to support its content and indicate how you meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person.  Wikipedia is interested in what others say about you, not what you say about yourself. 331dot (talk) 15:18, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

15:29:17, 6 June 2020 review of submission by Shani-tej-pratap-singh
Shani Tej Pratap Singh 15:29, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, do you have any question? Looks like your draft had been declined because you wrote an autobiographical article about yourself which is strongly discouraged, please have a close look at Autobiography. CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:11, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

16:53:47, 6 June 2020 review of draft by Timothconrad
I need help with my submission, i don't know what else should i do? Because i submitted twice it is declined, can you help me how to do it right?

Timothconrad (talk) 16:53, 6 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi . You are not forbidden from continuing to edit Draft:Timoth Conrad Kachumia, but autobiographies are strongly discouraged because of the conflict of interest they create. "Strongly discouraged" means the draft might be deleted, and you might be blocked from editing, if your edits are seen as an attempt to publicize yourself rather than purely to benefit Wikipedia. Many of the sources cited in the original draft are not reliable, and the remaining ones do not contain significant coverage of you. As your career progresses, more may be written about you in independent, reliable sources, but at the moment no one can help you "do it right" because the necessary sources simply don't exist. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:53, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

17:01:13, 6 June 2020 review of submission by Shashanktiwari9487
Shashanktiwari9487 (talk) 17:01, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

17:02:02, 6 June 2020 review of submission by Shashanktiwari9487
Shashanktiwari9487 (talk) 17:02, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , You are not supposed to write articles about yourself. This is highly discouraged. Wikipedia is not a place for WP:PROMOTION. The draft fails notability as per WP:ANYBIO. Social media mentions are not WP:RELIABLE sources. ~ Amkgp  ✉  17:17, 6 June 2020 (UTC)